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Not an argument worth responding to, but here's a link for your own education: Reductio ad absurdum

Fixed that for you.

The first statement by a Dev that they were actually looking into this was June 8th, to be exact.

The last Dev post in this thread was June 26th, just over FOUR MONTHS ago! Since then it has been nothing but silence; no updates on the promised improvements or progress, not even a comment to let us know they are still looking into this.

If you point it at the endpoint of the path, it hardly moves. The tunnel effects are hardly that much different from warping within the system. There is no problem.

And unless you've suddenly become some kind of arbitrator to this forum post, I can reply in any way I want. My reply is a reasonable reply to the discussion. How about you quit telling everyone how they can forum post?

Silence just means no dev in CCP has no damn clue howto make simple option to turn off the jump animation. After all they use agile scrum now, so none know the game system well enough to make it.

Just because you do not experience a problem, that does not mean that there is no problem. The problems have been thoroughly documented and discussed in this thread; if you had bothered to read some of it before posting, you would know that. I suggest that you grow up and get over yourself and realize that not everyone is affected by the same thing the same way.

Not that it is any of your business, but I suffer from low level migraines. As others in this thread have pointed out, repetitive flashing lights can be a trigger for these sorts of headaches as well as seizures. No other visual effect in this game gives me any sort of trouble; it's just this animation. Your workaround does nothing for me, so yes, there is a problem.



Yes, you can post whatever you want (within forum rules of course); that does not make it a valid argument against having an off switch for this animation.

Again, if you had bothered to read before posting, you would know that many "workarounds," including the one you proposed, have already been suggested and rejected as being ridiculous for any kind of long-term solution. Here are a few problems with your solution:

1. It is impractical for many situations in the game; you don't always have an autopilot route up, you don't always have the luxury of taking the time to align yourself visually, etc.

2. Like most suggestions by those who have no problem with the animation, it makes assumptions about what the problem is, and in doing so, only addresses one aspect of the issue (and poorly at that), while treating the many other pieces of the problem as if they do not exist or matter.

3. It's an unneccesary manual task for what can be easily solved with a very simiple solution: an optional off switch.



How about you stop telling people what is and isn't a problem for them?

Your ignorance is showing again; go back and read the thread. These have all been brought up as issues related to this animation. You are the one who chooses not to see that there is more than one problem with the effect.

And yes, the pulsing lights are a problem for me personally, and they are different enough from the warp animation that they cause a problem while warping does not. You claiming otherwise does not change this fact. Your hubris that your experience is the only experience does nothing to strengthen your position; rather it bears the sign of a narrow mind that refuses to see beyond itself.



My argument has always been that an on/off switch is the simplest, most reasonable, and most viable solution to address all the problems experienced by players as a result of this animation. I fail to see how listing some of those issues constitutes not "sticking to [my] argument".

Strong point of argument: swinging around is disorienting. Believable? Yes. Probably an issue worth doing something about.

Weak point of argument: the lights are too flashy. Believable? Not really. Too many arguments to refute that it is that much different from the rest of the game. Detracts from your main argument.

Weak point of argument: the perspective changes are disorienting. Believable? No, not at all. There are plenty of perspective changes, many of them far more noticeable.

Strong or weak (in your opinion), does not change it as fact. I can only testify to my own experience, and that is it: the light patterns are causing headaches, it was not a problem before this animation, it is a problem now.

I have lived with these headaches all my life; I have seen many doctors for them over the years, and I am very familiar with how they work and what sets them off. If you want to refute their existence or cause, you had better be willing to put forth some serious medical credentials backed up with years of research data, and then be willing to apply that data to my personal medical history.

Otherwise, you're just full of it.

Others have their issues with the animation; this is mine. Everyone who supports an off switch has a different reason for wanting it. We don't all have to have the same reason in order for it to be a good idea.

the normal warp tunnel has flashing lights yes, but they are no where near as powerful (is that the right english word? not my native language).

the jump gate one is much more intense and changes are much faster. this causes headaches and nausea in my personally when i have to do several jumps quickly when burning to a destination in a fleet situation. Ie not just moving from a to b with no time limit where i can actually take a little break, and since I have to be allert when exiting the gate in case there is a camp on the other side so I cant just look away.

if it isnt a problem for you: well congratulations. I am happy for you. (no sarcasm). For me it is annoying to the point that I sometimes have to take medications for the headache.

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