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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-10-29 07:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Ashley Solete wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Ashley Solete wrote:
Died while making a delivery, specifically the fifth business mission, and lost the item I was meant to deliver. Now I have no choice but the cancel the mission, and lose all further rewards, skill books, and game experience. This doesn't seem right to me. The career agent missions are basically tutorials, and now I can't finish one. Do I just bite the bullet and take the loss, or is there anything I can do?

How the **** could you die in that mission? It's a simple delivery job - no fighting involved.

Anyway, the answer is to petition it. The GMs are very willing to reset tutorial missions for newbies who haven't yet quite got the hang of things.


I got attacked in high sec. Think before you yell at me. I'll try a petition, but this is really something that should be protected against.


Petition will solve it.

And NO you should not be protected against all harm, as that will just mean people will whine when they are done with the tutorials and get killed cause the tutorials never said anything about it.

You got killed in highsec, how. Was it a duel, a wardec, a gank or ....... (insert circumstance)


EDit after reading all replies and some research:


1. You are never completely safe. The only safe place in EVE is docked in station and not logged in.
2. You were killed by wartargets. They had a war against BNI and thus by joining them you agreed to that part of the game. My tip, read up on what options joining a corp have, bot positive and negative. And do your research on the corp you join. You likely joined BNI becuase the annoying advert spamming in Clel without looking who they are and what they do (basically they are a huge group of mainly new players with a high profile and some retards attracting wrong attention to them - hence the large amounts of wardecs)

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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-10-29 13:57:27 UTC
Ashley Solete wrote:
They advertise themselves as a clan for new players.
They are.

Brave Newbies is great because it gets rid of the "you need 30 million skill points to compete" myth. Even a 10 year veteran in a multi-billions Dreadnought can be killed by newbies in cheap frigates if you throw enough of them at it. And BNI will gladly shower you in cheap frigates (free of charge for you the last time I checked), so that you can happily lose them in crazy battles.

Ashley Solete wrote:
I wasn't aware that by joining them I could be killed in high sec.
That's ****** of the recruiter to not have told you. BNI works because they stick together. A fleet of 40 frigates is a frightful sight, even if they are all newbies. But a single newbie is a free kill.

Ashley Solete wrote:
I've since left them, and got a second reset on the quest that I failed, and I'm now working on the final quest in the chain, so all is good.
Good to hear that it worked out for you.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-10-29 15:45:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
Don't be afraid to go back once you're done the tutorials and epic arc!

Learning PvP early is one of the best ways to avoid becoming a victim in this game. Shame they didn't tell you they would be at war. That seems like something that would definitely be mentioned to newer players. Chances are there's a corp mail sitting in your inbox telling everyone, but you really need to be aware/active to know what's going on in a corp. People who declare war in hi-sec (and for that matter people who hunt in 0.0) will jump at an oblivious player. Didn't know your corp was at war? A quick death will change that. Didn't realise your alliance lost sov before you undocked? Good luck re-docking.

Remember you are playing a game with other people, and that's where the fun is. Believe it or not, getting shot at is actually fun, and encouraged, once you know what you are doing. Last night I got no kills because I spent too much time playing station games with a guy who wouldn't shoot me. I really, really wanted him to.

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Ashley Solete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-10-29 21:14:13 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
Don't be afraid to go back once you're done the tutorials and epic arc!

Learning PvP early is one of the best ways to avoid becoming a victim in this game. Shame they didn't tell you they would be at war. That seems like something that would definitely be mentioned to newer players. Chances are there's a corp mail sitting in your inbox telling everyone, but you really need to be aware/active to know what's going on in a corp. People who declare war in hi-sec (and for that matter people who hunt in 0.0) will jump at an oblivious player. Didn't know your corp was at war? A quick death will change that. Didn't realise your alliance lost sov before you undocked? Good luck re-docking.

Remember you are playing a game with other people, and that's where the fun is. Believe it or not, getting shot at is actually fun, and encouraged, once you know what you are doing. Last night I got no kills because I spent too much time playing station games with a guy who wouldn't shoot me. I really, really wanted him to.


I totally get that this is a brutal, unforgiving PvP game, and I'm fine with that. If anything, I learned a lot from this mishap, and I got out all the same. Better to learn these lessons when you're flying a cheap starter ship, and not sailing smooth until you get something really expensive blown up. I will probably be returning to the corporation once I've finished the career missions and epic arc. I fully intend to get my hands dirty. Knowing that you might be destroyed at any time really makes things a lot more intense, a lot more exciting, and a lot more fun. It really adds to the immersion. I'm almost glad this happened, the more I think about it.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-10-29 22:12:02 UTC
Ashley Solete wrote:
Eram Fidard wrote:
Don't be afraid to go back once you're done the tutorials and epic arc!

Learning PvP early is one of the best ways to avoid becoming a victim in this game. Shame they didn't tell you they would be at war. That seems like something that would definitely be mentioned to newer players. Chances are there's a corp mail sitting in your inbox telling everyone, but you really need to be aware/active to know what's going on in a corp. People who declare war in hi-sec (and for that matter people who hunt in 0.0) will jump at an oblivious player. Didn't know your corp was at war? A quick death will change that. Didn't realise your alliance lost sov before you undocked? Good luck re-docking.

Remember you are playing a game with other people, and that's where the fun is. Believe it or not, getting shot at is actually fun, and encouraged, once you know what you are doing. Last night I got no kills because I spent too much time playing station games with a guy who wouldn't shoot me. I really, really wanted him to.


I totally get that this is a brutal, unforgiving PvP game, and I'm fine with that. If anything, I learned a lot from this mishap, and I got out all the same. Better to learn these lessons when you're flying a cheap starter ship, and not sailing smooth until you get something really expensive blown up. I will probably be returning to the corporation once I've finished the career missions and epic arc. I fully intend to get my hands dirty. Knowing that you might be destroyed at any time really makes things a lot more intense, a lot more exciting, and a lot more fun. It really adds to the immersion. I'm almost glad this happened, the more I think about it.


I approve this attitude.

+1

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#26 - 2013-10-31 00:55:16 UTC
Also approve of this attitude.

You've made a good choice of corporation there, just one that should have waited until after you'd done all the intro missions as people have said.

In general, GMs will not reset courier missions where other players blow you up, as that is the risk of those missions. The tutorials are an explicit exception to that.

Once you finish the tutorials, grab your destroyer, fit it out (ask for advice on doing this), get to a quiet system where someone from Brave Newbies can meet you, and then rejoin them.

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