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Why so omnipotent, CONCORD?
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Vivi Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-10-29 17:51:40 UTC
Do Target Spectrum Breakers work on CONCORD?

...assuming you aren't neuted before you turn on the module. Ugh

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-10-29 21:32:59 UTC
I don't think anyone is suggesting that concord should be tank-able except in very specific circumstances. This would probably require some sort of sov style mechanics in nearby systems to force players to actually begin the incursion in null sec and slowly push inwards. Warnings on the star map would be necessary, along with completely preventing this in constellations that include noob systems. Admittedly mistakes in setting up such a mechanic could have drastic consequences for high sec players, but having a system where players can team up with concord to drive the invaders away could lead to very interesting fights.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#23 - 2013-10-29 22:31:31 UTC
Players responding to players aggression other players? In what world are you living? If this was possible, Goons or any other large block would just bring in enough people to a system to reach/close in to population cap and prevent other players from responding accordingly. If at all. Burn Jita should have shown you two times now that people:


  • don't try to stop invaders.
  • just try to get on idiotic killmails
  • laugh at ships that are lost to the invaders


This attitude might change over time when certain systems are camped to absolutely not being accessible, but I doubt that.

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Doomheim
#24 - 2013-10-29 22:48:18 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Players responding to players aggression other players? In what world are you living? If this was possible, Goons or any other large block would just bring in enough people to a system to reach/close in to population cap and prevent other players from responding accordingly. If at all. Burn Jita should have shown you two times now that people:


  • don't try to stop invaders.
  • just try to get on idiotic killmails
  • laugh at ships that are lost to the invaders


This attitude might change over time when certain systems are camped to absolutely not being accessible, but I doubt that.


That's under current atmosphere of mechanics. But what if there was something to offer for participating, like some LPs or such.
Then maybe people would participate in more meaningful ways.
Of course there's still the other limiting issue about the system population caps.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-10-29 23:07:10 UTC
In the past concord was not onipotent. They changed it for a reason.. peopel abused it.....


What I woudl liek altough woudl be different penalties. Cocnord coudl take logenr to respond... but you coudl then be kept hutned by the NPCs for logner time ( not a single ship) in compensation

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Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2013-10-29 23:08:12 UTC
Vivi Udan wrote:
Do Target Spectrum Breakers work on CONCORD?

...assuming you aren't neuted before you turn on the module. Ugh


nothign works on them And escapign concord can get you banned
like when black ops were introduced and then woudl cyno out of system to escape concord.

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Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
#27 - 2013-10-30 04:16:08 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
In the past concord was not onipotent. They changed it for a reason.. peopel abused it.....




People abuse everything, particularly in EVE.

What this idea implements is finally some ability to play defender, as opposed to EVE's well established "victim" and "aggressor" roles.

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