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Where the Thukker completely enslaved by the amarrians?

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Arcos Vandymion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-10-29 13:20:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Arcos Vandymion
Roga Dracor wrote:
I used cities like New York and Tokyo as references. How many battleships are docked at Jita? How many crew does each of them have? several million just in crews at Jita every day.

These are major cities in space, granted some may have only several hundred thousand, on smaller stations. But, major stations support millions.

As to nul, how many titans do the big nul alliances sport? Carriers? Dreads? Battleships? Now what kind of infrastructure, ignoring crews, would be required, in boots on the ground, to maintain your ships, stations and sov? New Eden is overpopulated, and not by a small margin.

Take a city like Detroit, just beause you can't feed, house and employ the people, do you think they are just going to stop living there? Then stick them in a tin can, where they require the services of a space ship, just to leave. Many people move into situations looking to better their lives, when that doesn't pan out, they are still there.. Ever seen a carrier undock from a low sec station?

Babylon 5, which cannot support cruisers docking, fictionally supports 250 thousand, now take that little space station and sit it next to Jita 4-4.... Compare the sizes..So, how many died when the Broker rammed a Nix into a station?

Further, zoom out from a station. Those spires are buildings, high rise apartments, world trade centers, corporate office buildings, parks, etc.. Real cities in space..


If you take 4-4 as an estimate for size you might also want to figure out how much space would be needed to land all those ships - the result should be close to "a whole moons surface". If I think of galactic empires I like to referr to the hugely inaccurate fluff-cosmos by GW. A single Hiveworld may house tens of billions of people - but the amount of ressources wasted, the ecological footprint of all the citizens, the logistics and so on and so forth make it not really sensible (planetary destruction, commotion, unrest, riots, epidemics). Using a world to its singular maximum keeps the logistics down, makes lives more amiable for everyone and would keep things more in check. This doesn't account for migration but the average New Edian citizen is not very likely to acquire a ticket of planet. Thus the overall population isn't going to be in the numbers of thousands of trillions. I doubt it is even somewhere close to a few hundred trillion.
Roga Dracor
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#22 - 2013-11-06 14:15:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Roga Dracor
Look back, I never stated any such thing.. My guesstimate was right around 100 trillion for the whole cluster... Give or take.. Likely, a station like Jita 4-4 has a docking routine and enforcement system that keep many of those "docked" ships in a geosynchronus orbit round the station. Some hand wavium is a must for suspension of disbelief...

Since when have humans been "sensible"? Look at places like Detroit, Bangladesh, Hong Kong, and a host of "overpopulated" regions of the Earth to see just how "sensible" we are... Your progressive attitude is admirable, but, lacks a certain healthy respect for truth and historical accuracy..

The truth that we are still only human.. And the historically accurate truism that we are less than perfect, and hardly of the same mind on any matter..

The Jove have already tried your image of a humanist utopia, look where it got them.. I very much envision the First Jovian Empire as something like a Hiveworld.. Or a Ringworld...

It's no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then, and it's a poor sort of memory that only works backward.
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