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isk removed because of real money trading from recently bought character

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Talyn Sagald
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-10-28 19:35:18 UTC
Hi,
logged in a moment ago and found my wallet at -4,9 bln. They told me I bought ingame items/currency but I didn't do it. I checked my walletlog and beside bounty payouts there are only small amounts below 100m I send/received from characters on the same account or from my other accounts until the day I bought him. I mean with -4,9bln the game is pretty much over. Think I found the suspicious transactions and yes, this character was involved...but before I bought him. Have filed a petition and mailed the GM yet, is there any other way to speed this up?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2013-10-28 19:40:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Have filed a petition and mailed the GM yet, is there any other way to speed this up?

No.

In fact, adding more to the queue is more likely to slow it down.
Ibrahim Khamsi
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#3 - 2013-10-28 19:41:40 UTC
A member of our corp recently had the same problem under the same circumstances, from what i understand you will have to gather evidence to prove your innocence, as in keeping with tradition, the logs show nothing (Just enough to have your Isk removed).

If you can't get said evidence i suggest you go out and grind the Isk back, because you won't get anything back from CCP.
Gogela
The Conference Elite
CODE.
#4 - 2013-10-28 19:44:25 UTC
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Hi,
logged in a moment ago and found my wallet at -4,9 bln. They told me I bought ingame items/currency but I didn't do it. I checked my walletlog and beside bounty payouts there are only small amounts below 100m I send/received from characters on the same account or from my other accounts until the day I bought him. I mean with -4,9bln the game is pretty much over. Think I found the suspicious transactions and yes, this character was involved...but before I bought him. Have filed a petition and mailed the GM yet, is there any other way to speed this up?

Too bad nobody knows who the f you are. Maybe you should try to have a higher profile in the game... get to know some CCP insiders. That seems to be the way to go atm. Just trying to solve the problem here...

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#5 - 2013-10-28 19:46:09 UTC

Don't do naughty things. Don't discuss your petitions.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-10-28 19:51:22 UTC
RMT is bad. Selling character to yourself to cover it up is also bad. Discussing petitions is bad.


All of the above is bad. Don't do any of the above....mmkay?


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Talyn Sagald
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-28 20:00:45 UTC
Ibrahim Khamsi wrote:
A member of our corp recently had the same problem under the same circumstances, from what i understand you will have to gather evidence to prove your innocence, as in keeping with tradition, the logs show nothing (Just enough to have your Isk removed).

If you can't get said evidence i suggest you go out and grind the Isk back, because you won't get anything back from CCP.


Seems pretty much impossible, did he get the reomved isk back? Well, going out and grinding them back is close to impossible, too since I can't be sure what crazy stuff happens next.
Jarod Garamonde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-28 20:04:56 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
RMT is bad. Selling character to yourself to cover it up is also bad. Discussing petitions is bad.


All of the above is bad. Don't do any of the above....mmkay?




This is pretty much what all of us are thinking, but as usual, Unsuccessful is either braver or just faster than everyone else.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Ibrahim Khamsi
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#9 - 2013-10-28 20:11:45 UTC
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Ibrahim Khamsi wrote:
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Seems pretty much impossible, did he get the reomved isk back? Well, going out and grinding them back is close to impossible, too since I can't be sure what crazy stuff happens next.


The story is ongoing, the evidence has been obtained and sent to CCP but we await response
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#10 - 2013-10-28 20:25:17 UTC  |  Edited by: KIller Wabbit
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Hi,
logged in a moment ago and found my wallet at -4,9 bln. They told me I bought ingame items/currency but I didn't do it. I checked my walletlog and beside bounty payouts there are only small amounts below 100m I send/received from characters on the same account or from my other accounts until the day I bought him. I mean with -4,9bln the game is pretty much over. Think I found the suspicious transactions and yes, this character was involved...but before I bought him. Have filed a petition and mailed the GM yet, is there any other way to speed this up?


For the CCP to not have noticed that the transactions happened before you bought the character would be pretty sloppy RMT detective work. Perhaps their scripts need a bit of tweaking to automatically take this into account.

Sold Characters should have their transaction/mail/contract history deleted by CCP during the transfer process. What an intel gold mine...
Jarod Garamonde
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-10-28 20:29:24 UTC
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Hi,
logged in a moment ago and found my wallet at -4,9 bln. They told me I bought ingame items/currency but I didn't do it. I checked my walletlog and beside bounty payouts there are only small amounts below 100m I send/received from characters on the same account or from my other accounts until the day I bought him. I mean with -4,9bln the game is pretty much over. Think I found the suspicious transactions and yes, this character was involved...but before I bought him. Have filed a petition and mailed the GM yet, is there any other way to speed this up?


For the CCP to not have noticed that the transactions happened before you bought the character would be pretty sloppy RMT detective work. Perhaps their scripts need a bit of tweaking to automatically take this into account.

Sold Characters should have their transaction/mail/contract history deleted by CCP during the transfer process. What an intel gold mine...


Have you ever sold a character?
You have the option to do this yourself, when the toon is transfered.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Lazy Eagle
Capsuleer Outfitters
Reverberation Project
#12 - 2013-10-28 20:40:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Lazy Eagle
Ibrahim Khamsi wrote:
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Ibrahim Khamsi wrote:
snip


Seems pretty much impossible, did he get the reomved isk back? Well, going out and grinding them back is close to impossible, too since I can't be sure what crazy stuff happens next.


The story is ongoing, the evidence has been obtained and sent to CCP but we await response



This sounds familiar.

*edited cause i went all spergy for no reason.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#13 - 2013-10-28 20:43:42 UTC
If you can afford to buy a character, 4.9 Billion should not be game over, since the character is capable of earning money like that fairly fast, or should easily be.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#14 - 2013-10-28 20:55:20 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
KIller Wabbit wrote:
Talyn Sagald wrote:
Hi,
logged in a moment ago and found my wallet at -4,9 bln. They told me I bought ingame items/currency but I didn't do it. I checked my walletlog and beside bounty payouts there are only small amounts below 100m I send/received from characters on the same account or from my other accounts until the day I bought him. I mean with -4,9bln the game is pretty much over. Think I found the suspicious transactions and yes, this character was involved...but before I bought him. Have filed a petition and mailed the GM yet, is there any other way to speed this up?


For the CCP to not have noticed that the transactions happened before you bought the character would be pretty sloppy RMT detective work. Perhaps their scripts need a bit of tweaking to automatically take this into account.

Sold Characters should have their transaction/mail/contract history deleted by CCP during the transfer process. What an intel gold mine...


Have you ever sold a character?
You have the option to do this yourself, when the toon is transfered.


There's an option to clear transactions?

For those you can do yourself - it shouldn't be optional.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#15 - 2013-10-28 21:07:30 UTC
If CCP is going to allow character sales but at the same time remove the ISK from a character after it has been bought, they need to sort out how to do it right.

Either bind characters to their account and disallow sales or figure out how to make selling to yourself for laundering purposes imposable.

As it stands now CCP is doing a great job of losing the type of customers they should be cultivating. The lazy ones that will purchase five or ten GTCs to buy a character.

Not so good from a corporate perspective, in my opinion.

Mr Epeen Cool
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#16 - 2013-10-28 21:17:33 UTC
Quote:
10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.


There is no way to speed up petition time about a matter such as this. I suggest you simply wait; it's the best option at this point.

Thread closed.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department