Ships & Modules

Use courier contracts to haul stuff within highsec. Zero risk for you, no effort required, minimal costs (much less than what you could earn in the time it takes you to haul stuff yourself.) Train your char for pewpew ships.

I was going to suggest a brick tanked abaddon for high value cargo but you said T2 missiles.

Orca is your best bet in that case, you can hold a lot more than any blockade runner could ever hope for with a massive 200k+ ehp tank. You can also warp in 10 seconds pulsing an MWD but you will have to cram it on there. Use the meta 3 one.



This is an even better choice. They will get it there safely and you can run many MANY courier contracts for the cost of an orca. They can move your valuables at no risk to yourself because of collateral.

The Orca's standard cargohold and its Fleet Hangar can both be scanned by would-be gankers to ascertain whether or not you've got stuff worth taking you out for. That said, it takes at least twenty Nados to gank a properly fitted Orca - that's a lot of isk investment and gangs that size aren't hanging about every day. And when they do, they're usually along the Jita <-> Amarr run (Niarja is infamous), or Jita <-> Rens.
A scout is invaluable, or even another corp member in fleet with you, who can web your Orca as it aligns which can reduce time-to-warp by several long seconds. So start recruiting :)

Blockade Runners are unusual in that their cargoholds cannot be scanned. The non-cloaky versions have the biggest cargoholds and more low slots for expanders or tank. I think the Occator can reach about 39,000m3 but it has *no* tank and relying simply on +2 warp strength isn't a good idea.

If you really want a (relatively) safe ship, as well as some giggles, I'd suggest an Impel. It has 7 lows. With T2 and a couple of cheap faction hardeners, plus T2 Trimarks, you can fit an Impel with over 110,000 ehp and a sig radius of 160m which means even a gang of thirty Nados will die in a Concord fire before you pop. It'll only haul 5,000 m3 but if your "forays" are as frequent as you say, how much space are you really going to need?

Thanks for the help

My last question is this. If i had a fully fit and rigged Bestower in my orca ship bay. Could i fill it with missiles and they remain unscanned as they are in the bestower hold inside the Orca.


Also could i fit expensive mods on on that bestower and they remain un scanned.



Thanks

Something is wrong with your Eve client or internet connection if you're getting locked before the system can load.

After jumping through a gate you're cloaked for 60 seconds. Needless to say that's more than enough time for the next system to load, you to see what's at the gate and to decide what you're going to do.

After undocking you're not cloaked but you're invulnerable for 30 seconds and that should be more than enough for the system to load. Consider making an instant undock. It's basically a bookmark in a straight line a few hundred KM away from the station. You simply undock then warp to this bookmark then warp off. This makes it very difficult for someone to catch you at the undock.


Think of how many Tornadoes it'll take to kill your ship and will the loot that drops be worth more than those Tornadoes?.... If the answer is yes you might want to rethink how you're hauling it.

Just remember that speed is as good a tank as raw EHP.

If you are manually piloting a fairly fast ship there is very little time for a Gank to be setup ect. The 10km3 you can get from speedy/tanky Indys will carry a fairly large amount of Ammo and with a good fit you can warp pretty quickly and with a MWD/cloak they are pretty hard to catch.

I would personally only use Orca if I was moving a large volume or AFK APing, they are pretty slow and its a waste of your time. If you keep the cargo under 1 BiI you should be fine, even 2 Bill most likely.

Otherwise stick with something fast and cloaky.

if u have to fly that ship into low/null, choose a BR. orca hauling is straightly HS only.....

yes it can

Yep it can. And a blockade runner has no need to do so.

train both. However if you're not doing industry stuff, I would only do the orca if you have loads far above 10k m3 or need to move lots of rigged frigates and cruisers. If you're trading high value, low volume mods the blockade runner is sufficient.

Orca - move many rigged/fit ships at or below cruiser size, can carry a bunch of crap. Generally quite useful. Enough cargo capacity to support industrial operations that would be impossible with only 10k m3 of space or too risky in another industrial. Max tank can out-EHP a freighter, and for stuff you need freighter-sized cargoes for, you can just use courier contracts. In an orca its reasonable to go a few jumps, pick up over 100,000 m3 of stuff, and come back. With a shield tank and cargo fit you can afk around with 1bn in stuff and not be too worried. With bulkheads and a DC and active shield hardeners, you will be a very very tough target to kill.

Bloackade runner - ideal for moving very valuable stuff. Completely capable of moving a hangar full of varied t2 mods or more expensive stuff quickly. Useful everywhere.