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I think the siphon units should be fully anonymized. The reasoning is simple, the fact that the name of the player is in the show info of the unit, encourages people to use throw away alts for the deployment. It basically serves no purpose, it only encourages you to evade any consequences by using throw away alts once again. If it wouldn't be in there, the chance would be better that people would use normal chars for the task

i know why it is there but it will have the exact opposite effect IMO. Less consequences for the involved parties.

Well, we could have all the siphon units from a character who has been biomassed being not invisible to the API anymore...

Smart decision. Anchoring cannot be trained on trial accounts. I don't know that there would be much specific gain from anchoring siphons using a trial account, but it seems like a reasonable hole to plug nonetheless.

Yep, however, I think that a.) Limiting the number of Siphons a person could drop and b.) Ensuring that trial alts cannot train for them, are a significant step towards ensuring their restricted use. Even for Goons rather legendary recordkeeping and discipline, this would become a logistical nightmare in short order.

For example, let's say Goons want to put the hurt on a smaller alliance, and just blitz the heck out of all their moon goo and reaction POSes. Instead of fighting back, let's say the smaller alliance just folds and everyone just packs up their POSes and leaves. Now you have x number of Siphons just sitting out there that now NEED TO BE DESTROYED in order for you individually to try that again. It would even become a risk to you, if say Goons don't take over that territory and actively use it.

Would you really wanna be sitting, alone, in low-sec or unfriendly null-sec.. shooting your own Siphon.. for hours?

As a group, yes. However, with how Siphons are designed, the question no longer is based around "we", it is based around the individual himself and what he is willing to endure. I could be wrong, but I think if they limit Siphons to around 6 or 7 per person that Goons will not try to do this on a giant scale as it could potentially be a weapon should another alliance try to assault Goonswarm space.

The question remains though if having only 6 to 8 Siphons available for use individually would be profitable to anyone at all.

That is a good point, though I don't think we've heard from the Devs (yet) whether or not those structures will remain in place after the account expires. They don't use the same coding as the POSes did so that might be something that could be (should be) fixable.

Still, even with the amount of isk the Goonswarm operation generates, an effective blanket attack of Siphons would be very expensive, take time to coordinate, and still be a logistical nightmare for your leadership. Possible, yes. Practical.. still up in the air. Not that all operations that Goonswarm does have been practical.

Do you think PL could do it?

Enjoy siphoning all that low sec cobalt.
These changes are great, keep up the awesome CCP.

Good luck finding those reaction farms in highsec.


(you can't anchor moon miners or reactors in highsec)

Fixed.