Intergalactic Summit

Please don't give Kim any ideas!



That wasn't seceding, it was starting a civil war precipitated by your people's duplicity.

Sure it wasn't a brutal war of opression started by your people's micromanaging insecurity?

Pot, kettle. It must be nice having selective memory. I wouldn't know.

You certainly could have fooled me.

There is little profit in this idle vitriol.

Gallentine friends: please allow us the time to find those who have betrayed our Fleets and Home. If you have the ability and desire, please secret them away to new lives within your Federation if you prefer - they will no doubt meet warmer reception there than here.

Otherwise, congratulations on the success of your intelligence efforts! We will learn well from this experience.

​An excellent point.

The howls of indignation that followed your very insightful statement demonstrate how very close to the truth you came.

Sometimes a snort of derision is just a snort of derision.

I'll quote the usual, again.

As contrary to what most of the State immortals and corporate elite would love to believe, Heth filled a void in so many Caldari people. This filled void allowed for justified hate (as contrary to what many of the Federation immortals would love to believe) and while Heth did commit crimes, many would argue his crimes are nothing when compared to those committed daily by the corporate elite.

But as usual, the immortals want their little prided bubble worlds were their side is always the greener.

So… ousted from power by those who don't like his style… not surprising.

Honestly, all this talk of traitors to the State. Maybe some of you need reminding that only a short time ago Heth was ordering the executions of those he deemed to be "traitors" for protesting his regime. Perhaps some have forgotten just how long they continued to *defend* Heth's atrocities. Just how thick the blood was running in the street before they spoke out.

I suppose it is only natural for some to take the hard line now, after such a bloody national tragedy. Remember, if you can, the true nature of Tibus Heth. His charisma, and his brutality. Then ask yourself if you can blame those few Caldari who worked against his regime from the beginning. And with so little support within the State, can you blame them for accepting support offered by the Federation?

Heth's reign was only ever destined to end in fire. The only question was how many would be consumed in the flames. Our intelligence services worked tirelessly to prevent Heth from his aim of destroying our people. In time perhaps more Caldari will recognize the bravery of those within the State who took up the task of preventing him from destroying yours. That they found Gallente allies does not make them traitors. Their cause was to save the State, not betray it.

Believe me, if my Federation were to descend into the kind of tyranny shown by Heth... I would not hesitate a moment to accept support from the State in order to see it restored.

True enough. It is difficult especially when you know that other powers will do their best to take advantage of the situation. Had the Matari been as resolute as the Caldari, Shakor probably would have been removed from power by now. He can use the Amarr Empire as a threat to keep his people in line, though.

I've always thought it rather brave of the Caldari people that, even with Heth screaming about the threat of the Gallente if he were to go, the Caldari ejected him regardless. Rules were rules, people are people, and the strength of the State is not necessarily defined by those powers outside it.

Still, it is never easy to upend the status quo, especially the military ones. I can't imagine it was easy, and wouldn't think anyone would have taken that action without sufficient evidence. That he could be thrown from power so completely demonstrates how damning his reign became.