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Red Baron rides back... on Kickstarter
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#1 - 2013-10-27 11:33:25 UTC
Damon Slye, co-founder of the famous company Dynamix and author of many legendary sims like Red Baron, Aces of the Pacific, Aces Over Europe, A-10 Tank Killer or MechWarrior, is back after buying back the rights to the Red Baron franchise and he's looking for support through Kickstarter.

Details here:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/madottergames/red-baron

And here:

http://www.redbarongame.com/

They need 250,000 USD to finish the game by November 2014 after already investing 250,000 $ in it, funded among other things by selling Damon Slye's Piper Bonanza.

Access to the finished game starts from pledging USD 20 (limited offer for only 15 $), with more inclusive packages for higher pledges. Cool

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#2 - 2013-10-27 11:58:15 UTC
Von Richthoffen was most indeed my great-grandfather (no way to prove it here of course, but what an absurd thing to make up, and why anyway?).

Maybe I should look into some kinda rights and royalties here Big smile

I kid.......

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#3 - 2013-10-27 13:05:20 UTC
Yay more, flight sims. Im glad the genre coming back in full force being a hardcore flight simmer. And yes I have and played the original red barron. I just hope they don't make the new one too arcade like. I love the challenge of actually flying the aircraft properly.

Also another project was just successfully funded DCS WWII: Europe 1944
Its a super realistic "study sim" set in WWII. With all the famous fighters and possibly bombers of WWII

-k8

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-27 13:29:53 UTC
I so badly want to play more flight sims... but i have no more room on my desk for the set up needed...

And while i could buy a bigger desk, it would ruin the flow of the room.

*pauses*

My god... i've become too fabulous havent i?

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#5 - 2013-10-27 14:19:26 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Yay more, flight sims. Im glad the genre coming back in full force being a hardcore flight simmer. And yes I have and played the original red barron. I just hope they don't make the new one too arcade like. I love the challenge of actually flying the aircraft properly.

Also another project was just successfully funded DCS WWII: Europe 1944
Its a super realistic "study sim" set in WWII. With all the famous fighters and possibly bombers of WWII


Along with the industry circunstances, WW2 sims also suffered a silly drawback when Boeing started claiming IP rights on WW2 era aircraft manufacture either by Boeing or by companies bought by Boeing, which prevents to simulate their cockpits without paying IP rights.

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Robby Altair
#6 - 2013-10-27 16:03:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Robby Altair
"Damn It! My guns are jammed!"

The Red Baron was a fun game. Only game I played were I became a prisoner of war. Also, you got to unlock pretty paint jobs for your ship, and it didn't cost anymore money. Ah, the old days.

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-27 17:22:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ila Dace
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
Yay more, flight sims. Im glad the genre coming back in full force being a hardcore flight simmer. And yes I have and played the original red barron. I just hope they don't make the new one too arcade like. I love the challenge of actually flying the aircraft properly.

Also another project was just successfully funded DCS WWII: Europe 1944
Its a super realistic "study sim" set in WWII. With all the famous fighters and possibly bombers of WWII


Along with the industry circunstances, WW2 sims also suffered a silly drawback when Boeing started claiming IP rights on WW2 era aircraft manufacture either by Boeing or by companies bought by Boeing, which prevents to simulate their cockpits without paying IP rights.

So much for hoping for a modern version of Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

Edit: Kicked in my pledge: They're at 29K (just) and they need 250K by Nov 22nd to succeed with the funding.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2013-10-28 14:05:42 UTC
The WWI aviation gamers mostly still think that Red Baron 3D is the one that rules them all. They used to go to extremely lengths fiddling and patching to make it run on Windows XP, but I think Vista killed that forever. Over Flanders Field is good, Rise of Flight good too. But for some reason neither are a fun as Red Baron 3D. They might get their 250k without too much trouble.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#9 - 2013-10-28 14:35:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Khergit Deserters wrote:
The WWI aviation gamers mostly still think that Red Baron 3D is the one that rules them all. They used to go to extremely lengths fiddling and patching to make it run on Windows XP, but I think Vista killed that forever. Over Flanders Field is good, Rise of Flight good too. But for some reason neither are a fun as Red Baron 3D. They might get their 250k without too much trouble.


Well, WWI era airplanes were not fun. Red Baron 3D allowed for things that would had ended horribly in RL, and anyway it had plenty of stuff that ended horribly. Also the immersion was very good, things like ending as a POW, being sent to hospital or being crippled after a crash landing, plus the ability to paint your airplane (I had a "Zebra" Dr.1 that was totally awesome) was very immersive.

One of those experiences i'll never forget, was coming back to my lines with a wounded Nieuport 17 which essentially had lost the right sesquiwing. In a very serious sim, that would had been the end, but in Red Baron 3D, i could compensate with rudder, aileron and elevator and keep it more or less straight as i crossed the lines. As i couldn't climb, I had to follow a river and trust it wouldn't "climb up" the trenches, and it actually kept level so at one point i was flying under the level of trench lines... once i was reasonably sure that I was on my side, and after struggling with the wounded Nieuport for 20 minutes, I crash landed uphill and walked away on my own feet, more or less, as i was back to my unit from hospital 20 days later.

Be noted, I flew rotary engine airplanes in on/off mode, not using the throttle...

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#10 - 2013-10-28 15:05:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


Well, WWI era airplanes were not fun. Red Baron 3D allowed for things that would had ended horribly in RL, and anyway it had plenty of stuff that ended horribly. Also the immersion was very good, things like ending as a POW, beign sent to hospital or being crippled after a crash landing, plus the ability to paint your airplane (I had a "Zebra" Dr.1 that was totally awesome) was very immersive.

One of those experiences i'll never forget, was coming back to my lines with a wounded Nieuport 17 which essentially had lost the right sesquiwing. In a very serious sim, that would had been the end, but in Red Baron 3D, i could compensate with rudder, aileron and elevator and keep it more or less straight as i crossed the lines. As i couldn't climb, I had to follow a river and trust it wouldn't "climb up" the trenches, and it actually kept level so at one point i was flying under the level of trench lines... once i was reasonably sure that I was on my side, and after struggling with the wounded Nieuport for 20 minutes, I crash landed uphill and walked away on my own feet, more or less, as i was back to my unit from hospital 20 days later.

Be noted, I flew rotary engine airplanes in on/off mode, not using the throttle...

Epic! You're right, the real drama was in trying to limp home after a battle. Two of those I remember:

-Has a pilot with a good career streak going. His plane is all shot up, hardly any control surfaces functioning, engine is leaking oil. 100 feet over the ground and battling to keep it airborne, just long enough to get across the lines and crash land. Just as I cross the lines, the engine starts burning. I'm trying to save the character, so stayed in the cockpit until the plane is at 20 feet elevation, then jumped. The char survived, but was permanently disabled from the fire.

-Plane all shot up and being pursued by an enemy scout. Had to land in a field. The enemy plane keeps flying around, doing passes at my plane on the ground. At one point he lines up just right for machine guns shot and I shoot him down, from a parked plane. (A pretty unrealistic outcome, I'll admit, but still pretty enjoyable. Smile)

Now that you mention it, that kind of stuff doesn't happen in OOF or ROF. If you get shot up much, your aircraft becomes uncontrollable and usually spins.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#11 - 2013-10-28 15:40:46 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:


Well, WWI era airplanes were not fun. Red Baron 3D allowed for things that would had ended horribly in RL, and anyway it had plenty of stuff that ended horribly. Also the immersion was very good, things like ending as a POW, beign sent to hospital or being crippled after a crash landing, plus the ability to paint your airplane (I had a "Zebra" Dr.1 that was totally awesome) was very immersive.

One of those experiences i'll never forget, was coming back to my lines with a wounded Nieuport 17 which essentially had lost the right sesquiwing. In a very serious sim, that would had been the end, but in Red Baron 3D, i could compensate with rudder, aileron and elevator and keep it more or less straight as i crossed the lines. As i couldn't climb, I had to follow a river and trust it wouldn't "climb up" the trenches, and it actually kept level so at one point i was flying under the level of trench lines... once i was reasonably sure that I was on my side, and after struggling with the wounded Nieuport for 20 minutes, I crash landed uphill and walked away on my own feet, more or less, as i was back to my unit from hospital 20 days later.

Be noted, I flew rotary engine airplanes in on/off mode, not using the throttle...

Epic! You're right, the real drama was in trying to limp home after a battle. Two of those I remember:

-Has a pilot with a good career streak going. His plane is all shot up, hardly any control surfaces functioning, engine is leaking oil. 100 feet over the ground and battling to keep it airborne, just long enough to get across the lines and crash land. Just as I cross the lines, the engine starts burning. I'm trying to save the character, so stayed in the cockpit until the plane is at 20 feet elevation, then jumped. The char survived, but was permanently disabled from the fire.

-Plane all shot up and being pursued by an enemy scout. Had to land in a field. The enemy plane keeps flying around, doing passes at my plane on the ground. At one point he lines up just right for machine guns shot and I shoot him down, from a parked plane. (A pretty unrealistic outcome, I'll admit, but still pretty enjoyable. Smile)

Now that you mention it, that kind of stuff doesn't happen in OOF or ROF. If you get shot up much, your aircraft becomes uncontrollable and usually spins.


Doh, fires were nasty! You usually would die, but then... I was flying that Albatros V, was set ablaze by a AA machinegun, I tried to crash land but bounced, then i jumped desperately to my death... and returned to unit after 6 months in hospital. Maybe was the mix of low speed/altitude, but i was totally shocked.

Another pilot killer were broken landing gears... once i managed to survive by deliberately hitting an hangar with the gear so it fell off, then I landed flat and stopped quite quickly. Was a dangerous trick and only worked a couple times.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#12 - 2013-10-28 18:07:11 UTC
I will only support another Red Baron game if and only if I can fly around on top of a doghouse as Snoopy.




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Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#13 - 2013-10-28 19:00:48 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
I will only support another Red Baron game if and only if I can fly around on top of a doghouse as Snoopy.


Contribute $10,000 and you'll get dinner with the devs. Someone with your personality could easily persuade them to include Snoopy-mode complete with a Lucy back at the pilots club to kiss.

Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-10-29 18:27:41 UTC
Needs MOAR funding.

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-10-31 22:00:53 UTC
Sad

Kickstarter campaign cancelled: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/madottergames/red-baron

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#16 - 2013-10-31 23:01:14 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
Sad

Kickstarter campaign cancelled: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/madottergames/red-baron


Dang! Hope they'll try again & with better luck. Sad

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