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[Rubicon] Sisters of EVE faction ships

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Adrian Dixon
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction
-affliction-
#2221 - 2013-10-26 15:01:06 UTC
You could add the new Sisters of EVE frigate or cruiser as the rescue vessel in the mission 'Pick Your Poison Objectives'
Malachi Chinaski
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2222 - 2013-10-26 16:02:17 UTC
Change the optimal range bonus to +25% and add a +12.5% damage bonus to lasers so people use them.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2223 - 2013-10-26 17:03:35 UTC
Is 67m the final size? Seems a little small compared to other frigates given its drone cargo size.
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2224 - 2013-10-26 17:18:03 UTC
Right now I find them a little underwhelming. Let's just say I can't see a reason to use these over the current ships in the game already, for exploration at least.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#2225 - 2013-10-26 17:30:39 UTC
Still need the battleship version, let's go CCP!
Alvin Exe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2226 - 2013-10-26 17:37:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvin Exe
I find these two ships pretty interresting for ninja exploration/ratting, but I still have some issues


  1. The exploration bonus is only 5 point for relic/data when there is 10 on a T2 cov ops frigs which isnt (say the background description) their main intended usage. I expect SOE to be at least as good as empire faction on this matter =o
    2. edit: Seems this matters has been adressed already. Glad :)

  2. For explorers, you would like to be able to fitt memetic and emission rigs for data/relic bonuses, but pirate ships only have 350 calib instead of 400. This issue could be adressed by considering its a "non empire navy ship" OR by reducing slightly the calibration needed for theses rigs (200 calib for T1 o_o ?)

Telarus Antaris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2227 - 2013-10-26 17:56:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Telarus Antaris
I wonder where I will get those ships from?

Just from everywhere of the "Servan Sisters of EVE" Faction or a specific Corporation (I guess) "Sisters of EVE"?
Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2228 - 2013-10-26 18:11:56 UTC
Telarus Antaris wrote:
I wonder where I will get those ships from?

Just from everywhere of the "Servan Sisters of EVE" Faction or a specific Corporation (I guess) "Sisters of EVE"?

LP store from SOE. Or just buy it off the market when people throw them onto a tradehub.
Telarus Antaris
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2229 - 2013-10-26 18:26:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Telarus Antaris
Yeah SOE LP Shop makes sense but any specific Corporation?
Just wondering for which I should start fly missions today.
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2230 - 2013-10-26 20:25:20 UTC
Ok, straight up, fix the cruiser simply by dropping it to three highs and drop all turrets and remove that ludicrous laser bonus. I get you want to make it look more amarr but honestly, large drone bay does that. Then re add that fifth drone so it doesn't look like some embarrassing mess for combat. As seriously, in it's current standing, it's become another one of "those" ships no one likes.

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Cammi Kazi
Perkone
Caldari State
#2231 - 2013-10-26 20:46:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Cammi Kazi
ConranAntoni wrote:
Ok, straight up, fix the cruiser simply by dropping it to three highs and drop all turrets and remove that ludicrous laser bonus. I get you want to make it look more amarr but honestly, large drone bay does that. Then re add that fifth drone so it doesn't look like some embarrassing mess for combat. As seriously, in it's current standing, it's become another one of "those" ships no one likes.


^This

If the design goal of the ship is for extended exploration and to do 6/10 plexes it needs to be able to do around 600 dps for the overseer and no more and you can get that from drones alone.
Viaharo Musa
Evian Industries
Reeloaded.
#2232 - 2013-10-26 21:14:38 UTC
........people complaining and ranting about a ship that's not even available for test yet..... sigh......
and its already nerf'd before it hits sisi.....

Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
#2233 - 2013-10-26 21:33:19 UTC
CCP Rise wrote:
my visit to EVE Vegas
Thanks



Sounds like it - not exactly the type of ships drunk RMTing gambling addicts starting to play eve would fly - everyone else doesn't have a lobby apparently.

*shrugs* - managed to raffle enough to buy 4 years of War Thunder Subs and buying a Thrustmaster A10 Warthog controler on top thus far.

I'm glad I'm out of here.

I know - you're too...
Niena Nuamzzar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2234 - 2013-10-26 22:03:53 UTC
Stratios

Special Ability: 100% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage

Role Bonus: 100% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus)
Role Bonus: +10 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
5% bonus to Armor Resists

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
5% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Capacitor (amount) : 1930
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#2235 - 2013-10-26 22:17:10 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Niena Nuamzzar wrote:
Stratios

Special Ability: 100% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage

Role Bonus: 100% bonus to Medium Energy Turret optimal range
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus)
Role Bonus: +10 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
5% bonus to Armor Resists

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
5% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Slot layout: 5H, 5M, 5L; 3 turrets, 0 launchers
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Capacitor (amount) : 1930



I would very much like to fly this version.Nice ship.I trust ccp to balance the exact numbers, but the idea is nice.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Princess Maldiva
Krul Corp
#2236 - 2013-10-26 22:19:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Maldiva
They're removing the 5th drone. Hahaha, good work CCP. They've ruined exploration, might as well ruin the new exploration ship as well I suppose. I now have no interest in this ship and it was the main thing in the expansion that I was looking forward to. So now, for me, the expansion is just warp speed changes. Great - don't think I'll be playing this game in 6 months' time tbh.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#2237 - 2013-10-26 22:52:17 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
You do realise that these sisters ships being gatecamp immune in losec will completely change/correct the balance in losec?
There will finally be a tool to leave those that look for easy pickings a smoking wreck and open losec up to proper functionality, and give the residents proper GF?
Not because they are overpowered, they are not, it just will mean that the easy kills on the gate become real fights within the
territory.

. The good will thrive, the lazy will die.


Burn the gatecamps to the ground.


Sounds like EVE to me.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Moloney
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2238 - 2013-10-26 23:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Moloney
Please for the love of god put the 125 drone bandwith back on this cruiser.

A flight of sentries is what made it cool

Ed: Dropped the drone damage bonus from 10% to 5% as well?! What are you at? I was interested in this ship but now any number of ships are better... you are just adding fluff at this point!!!
Davos Jovakko
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2239 - 2013-10-26 23:53:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Davos Jovakko
Moloney wrote:
Please for the love of god put the 125 drone bandwith back on this cruiser.

A flight of sentries is what made it cool

Ed: Dropped the drone damage bonus from 10% to 5% as well?! What are you at? I was interested in this ship but now any number of ships are better... you are just adding fluff at this point!!!


They added the fifth drone back. The Bandwith is back to 125. Instead they dropped the drone bonus from 10 to 5. So instead of a 20% nerf to damage with the loss of the fifth drone it is a 25% nerf to damage.

But they also gave 100% more energy weapon damage, so it is a wash?
Moloney
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2240 - 2013-10-26 23:55:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Moloney
Davos Jovakko wrote:
Moloney wrote:
Please for the love of god put the 125 drone bandwith back on this cruiser.

A flight of sentries is what made it cool

Ed: Dropped the drone damage bonus from 10% to 5% as well?! What are you at? I was interested in this ship but now any number of ships are better... you are just adding fluff at this point!!!


They added the fifth drone back. The Bandwith is back to 125. Instead they dropped the drone bonus from 10 to 5. So instead of a 20% nerf to damage with the loss of the fifth drone it is a 25% nerf to damage.

But they also gave 100% more energy weapon damage, so it is a wash?


That is a little relief. The damage is annoying but at least there are now options again.

ED: Bah, I should fully read your post prior to thinking something has been improved.... This are effectively pirate ships why nerf them so heavily?