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Revenge and pre-emptive strike on Sansha's Nation for Tibus Heth and the Caldari State

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2013-10-25 15:37:43 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Confirmed that Pyre is hiring.


Quite.

On a not at all related note and therefore completely off topic; were you high when you had that picture taken?


You're out of uniform, Suorsa. And not in a good way.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
#22 - 2013-10-25 16:25:52 UTC
in this case ill bid TS-F good hunting. while sansha are potentially guilty of heths "dissapearence" i suspect its more likely they were used for cover by some 3rd party. as they would be far too obvious to be ones to blame
Jurou Yuan
Wolfraam 74
#23 - 2013-10-25 16:48:07 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
It is disheartening to see so many of my former compatriots and employees flying under the banner of Kuvakei.

I suppose the argument could be made that Kuvakei's "utopia" is largely borne of traditional Caldari ideals (albeit taken to very strong extremes and with a heavy dose of nihilism thrown in) and so Patriot Caldari are easily swayed into Nation's ranks.

Or, perhaps, it's a reflection on my failings as a leader.

Pfeh, all this mining has made me entirely too introspective for my own sanity.



Don't be hard on yourself, Khross. You're a good man. Delusional, but a good man.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#24 - 2013-10-25 18:27:26 UTC
Naraish Adarn wrote:
in this case ill bid TS-F good hunting. while sansha are potentially guilty of heths "dissapearence" i suspect its more likely they were used for cover by some 3rd party. as they would be far too obvious to be ones to blame


While it would be deeply amusing to annihilate this silly little Provist and whatever band of misfits he gathers to his cause, the Foundations has actual work to accomplish. We have full confidence that he will ram his ship into a sun at some point and that irony or Null Space will kill him before he gets even close to Stain.
Ichinumi Tsukaya
Desi Beanz
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-10-26 00:48:51 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Imagine yourself at the docks.

The docks where the boat has already sailed long ago.

Now you're all alone at the docks and no one cares.

I can picture this.
In the vision I am the only one around. Sansha forces are picking up people in the nearby city as if there and flying them up into Nightmares which blacken the sky above.
The city barely resembles what it once did as the Nation pillages it.
Yet I recognise, vaugely where I am standing.
Saisio III.

So go ahead, ignore the impending threat to the State in the hands of Sansha's Nation.
Hang your head in shame at what you will allow to happen to the Caldari State.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-10-26 03:16:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:

So go ahead, ignore the impending threat to the State in the hands of Sansha's Nation.
Hang your head in shame at what you will allow to happen to the Caldari State.


I'd say I'm ignoring a bottom of the barrel mediocre provvie wannabe who is all empty words and bravura.

Congratulations on being a failure of a polemecist, by the way.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#27 - 2013-10-26 04:07:54 UTC
Looking forward to hear about how a bunch of Provists manage to lead an Incursion into Stain tomorrow. If you don't conquer at least eight systems I will be dissapointed.
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#28 - 2013-10-26 05:05:24 UTC
Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:

I can picture this.
In the vision I am the only one around. Sansha forces are picking up people in the nearby city as if there and flying them up into Nightmares which blacken the sky above.
The city barely resembles what it once did as the Nation pillages it.
Yet I recognise, vaugely where I am standing.
Saisio III.

So go ahead, ignore the impending threat to the State in the hands of Sansha's Nation.
Hang your head in shame at what you will allow to happen to the Caldari State.


Pardon me if this comes across as a little rude, sir, but while I can understand your interest in keeping useful knowledge out of an enemy's hands, (though as many others have said, it is only speculation that it happens to be in the hands of this paticular enemy) I must confess to be somewhat confused by the fact that you - An Achur and an apparant native of the homeworld - Seem to be in such passionate support of Tibus Heth and his former government.

When, by all accounts, he and the Providence Directorate cared about as much for our peoples presence in the State as a weapons trader cares for the civilian modules market.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#29 - 2013-10-26 05:41:43 UTC
I will not spend the lives of my crews in such a doomed crusade. Nor would I spend a single life to fight for Heth.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-10-26 10:22:51 UTC
I would recommend eradicating first those, who were acting or speaking against Tibus Heth, before fighting Sanshas.
The trash, who don't respect Caldari Hero, Tibus Heth, are traitors. They are either gallentean supporters or were bought by gallentean spies to destabilize Heth-haans meritocracy.
They must be dealt with first, before we can proceed with eliminating external enemies.
We must purge traitorous scum and clear our beloved State.
With fire and steel.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#31 - 2013-10-26 11:38:02 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I would recommend eradicating first those, who were acting or speaking against Tibus Heth, before fighting Sanshas.
The trash, who don't respect Caldari Hero, Tibus Heth, are traitors. They are either gallentean supporters or were bought by gallentean spies to destabilize Heth-haans meritocracy.
They must be dealt with first, before we can proceed with eliminating external enemies.
We must purge traitorous scum and clear our beloved State.
With fire and steel.


Kim has the right idea. Fight amongst yourselves, over the body of the man who almost ruined your nation. I'm sure he'll be happy that you are continuing his efforts to burn the State to the ground to rid it of non-existent or minimal threats.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Ichinumi Tsukaya
Desi Beanz
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-10-26 16:46:05 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:

So go ahead, ignore the impending threat to the State in the hands of Sansha's Nation.
Hang your head in shame at what you will allow to happen to the Caldari State.


I'd say I'm ignoring a bottom of the barrel mediocre provvie wannabe who is all empty words and bravura.

Congratulations on being a failure of a polemecist, by the way.


Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I will not spend the lives of my crews in such a doomed crusade. Nor would I spend a single life to fight for Heth.

All you see is 'Provist'. 'Division'. 'Differences'.
Maybe my sentences before were too big for you...
Maybe you are just happy to remain blind to the greater threat to our State.

Open your eyes to what we can achive, working together for our people.
I wonder if we share similar goals? Such as the empowerment of the Caldari people? Perhaps I was very wishful in my thinking about your group. Perhaps I expected too much.


Diana Kim wrote:
I would recommend eradicating first those, who were acting or speaking against Tibus Heth, before fighting Sanshas.
...

Kim-haani, with respect, Sansha has wormhole generation technology. Perfect for exploiting strategic weaknesses across the cluster, in a massive way that only Sansha can. If we cannot, at minimum, find some way to stop Sansha from getting a hold of the secrets of the Caldari State and possibly CONCORD, the entire State is at dire risk.
We would be failing our people to not pre-emptively engage Sansha forces, at a minimum. If at all we can recover Tibus Heth, that would be a bonus. Though, that is pending a full medical examination, as Sansha cannot be underestimated. Yet at the same time as I am sure you are aware, we must also be ready to execute Tibus Heth if safe recovery is somehow impossible. Heth-haan loves the Caldari people, as we know.
There is no doubt in my mind's eye, he would rather be destroyed than risk the greater prosperity of the State, no matter which direction a corrupt CEP may wish to steer it. If it comes down to that, so be it.
Even so, nothing will prevent the greater reckoning ahead.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-10-26 21:00:33 UTC
Ichinumi Tsukaya wrote:


Open your eyes to what we can achive, working together for our people.
I wonder if we share similar goals? Such as the empowerment of the Caldari people? Perhaps I was very wishful in my thinking about your group. Perhaps I expected too much.



Did you know that CONCORD and DED already provides incentives for capsuleers to undertake activities against Sansha's Nation and has done so for the past few years?

Did you know that I don't care for lifting a finger, nor risking the sacrifice of my crews, to aid and abet known traitors, criminals and fugitives whether it's Tibus Heth, the Provists or the Gurista?

Did you know I don't care about your wishful thinking?

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#34 - 2013-10-27 00:59:39 UTC
I have received no distress calls from Stain....

Can it be?! His roam was so successful Nation was destroyed before they even had a chance to call for help!
Liuni Kalthis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-10-27 01:27:21 UTC
So is this the part where the fleet comes back saying they are much happier and expressing the love of networking to the summit?
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-10-27 12:20:34 UTC
You must be pretty damn stupid if you made this thread expecting any loyal Caldari capsuleer to lift a finger to "avenge" Heth. He's a liar and a traitor to the Caldari people, and anyone supporting him is exactly the same.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Malcolm Khross
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-10-28 13:52:39 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
You must be pretty damn stupid if you made this thread expecting any loyal Caldari capsuleer to lift a finger to "avenge" Heth. He's a liar and a traitor to the Caldari people, and anyone supporting him is exactly the same.



Stop being agreeable.

~Malcolm Khross

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-10-28 13:58:17 UTC
Malcolm Khross wrote:
Stop being agreeable.

No.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#39 - 2013-10-30 09:22:24 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
I have received no distress calls from Stain....

Can it be?! His roam was so successful Nation was destroyed before they even had a chance to call for help!


Damn. Well, I guess we're out of a job.

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-10-31 09:53:53 UTC
You know, I think the Sansha folks who make themselves visible get a little too much flak. They almost always seem to carry themselves quite nicely and calmly, usually posting with little malice and putting a fair amount of thought into what they want to say. I can safely say that I think I would enjoy an evening drinking with most of them.

Granted, I'd shoot them afterwards. But everything before that I imagine being pretty swell.