EVE General Discussion

The devblog at community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/player-owned-customs-offices-in-hi-sec does not mention anything at all about turning suspect, and if this was the case, lots of people would just gather around the offices and quickly vanquish anyone trying to shoot it, basically causing it to take potensially forever to remove it. I believe the offices have around 14.5 million HP, which takes a while to take down, even when you are left alone.

If attacking it would indeed flag people as suspects, I would never use my Archon for this, and probably not any battleship either.

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You will get a PvE logoff timer, just like you get every time you shoot NPCs or they shoot you. This is not a suspect timer, even though they have similar colors in the top left corner.

If you can't understand the very FIRST rule listed, perhaps you shouldn't be trusted to have one in hi sec in the first place.


inb4 tedious reality altering arguments of how blowing **** up is not considered aggression...

*fart*

This can't go through for two reasons:

One - A carrier is capable of more than double the DPS of the next leading droneboat
Two - A carrier is capable of tanking far more than the next leading droneboat whilst dealing this DPS
Three - It's cheaper than the next leading pimp droneboat.

I very much doubt anybody is jealous of your 1.2bil hull that's stuck in highsec and useless; if you fancy taking a jaunt down to null you'll see things with 100x the value being actively used in combat, or hop into wormhole space and see "leet" ships like yours being used in group PVE, rather than rotting in a station.

Imagine 100 elite pvp'ers from the same corp show up to destroy an office, and they all go suspect. One neutral pilot next to them could then pick any target he wanted, and all the others would not be able to fight back, because they would be concorded if they attacked the neutral ship. Seems you would weed out basically everybody that way.



The GM didn't "understand" the first rule, perhaps the rules should be updated.



One - An Archon is not capable of more dps than a Dominix Navy Issue, as outlined.
Two - The ability to tank is irrelevant when shooting Interbus offices, just as it is irrelevant when shooting belt rats.
Three - Cheaper how? 15 fighters costs about 255-300 mill. Then add 5x Drone Control Unit I which comes at around 320 mill. I believe you can fit a Dominix Navy Issue pretty good for around 500 mill total.



My Archon is usually in space 23/7, the only reason it is docked now, is because of the wardec, and rule number 2 doesn't allow me to undock now.

What a Waste, get that piece of rubbish into Low/Null

HS Sec Capitals.... Look at my Epeen.... Pretty much

The New Mod has just made the Phoenix viable.

I challenge you to find me a ratting titan. No, seriously.



One - Your Dominix Navy Issue will never apply that DPS on anything other than a stationary target. Your blaster tracking, with nothing to help it out and void in the guns, would barely be able to hit the POCO if it was going 1m/s.
Two - Let's talk about how shooting POCOs will make you suspect, shall we? You really want to sit in a glasscannon battleship at a POCO perfectly stationary so your blasters can actually apply some of their damage with a suspect timer flashing? And please, belt ratting in a carrier is next-level stupid. Besides the threat from hotdroppers in that you're ridiculously easy to find, you take just under a minute to warp between belts in order to shoot four rats at a time. Ratting carriers are used in anoms if the pilot has any sense.
Three - For a start, the DNI is not the "next leading pimp droneboat". Try the rattlesnake - same DPS, better active tank. Perfect for PVE. The average rattler hull is 420-ish mil, and will be fit with bling in order to maximise ticks. It will come out a similar price to a carrier.

EDIT: As an afterword to point one - try sticking Ogre IIs in instead of Garde IIs. The archon now outdamages your sentry dominix even including guns, 1746dps to 1739.



Dunno if you were around for it, but during Burn Jita somebody logged a Nyx in that'd been there since near the start of the game and hadn't been seen since. Highsec carriers are a lot more common than you think. He's not allowed to sell it, either.

Customs offices are stationary targets, being able to hit moving targets is irrelevant.


Shooting a POCO would make you criminal and get you concorded, unless you wardec first. But I assume you meant shooting highsec interbus offices, which does not make you suspect, I quote again:


The PvE timer mentioned is the NPC logoff timer you get every time you shoot NPCs or they shoot you. It is not the same as a suspect timer, even though they have similar colors in the top left corner.


Yes, this is perfectly viable since you will get no suspect timer. I believe many people will be doing exactly that when Rubicon hits.


Good point, I was wrong in assuming Garde IIs would give the best dps against a stationary target, since Ogres get bonus from more skills. Switching to Ogre IIs, the Archon does indeed get 1746 dps, while the DNI gets 1784 dps, which doesn't change the fact that the DNI can get a better dps.

The rattlesnake does have a better tank, but I seem to be having trouble getting it above 1351 dps with T2 torpedoes, can you show me how? I used the DNI because it has a damage bonus to two different weapon systems.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbZt7e_jn8w

If I find a still living one, I'll give you a ring though. :P