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SGT FUNYOUN
Elysian Space Navy - 1st Fleet
#1 - 2013-10-26 03:59:08 UTC  |  Edited by: SGT FUNYOUN
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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#2 - 2013-10-26 04:13:49 UTC
I don' t think that's what's meant by "Features and ideas discussion"...
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#3 - 2013-10-26 04:19:40 UTC
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
I don' t think that's what's meant by "Features and ideas discussion"...


Well, it IS an idea....although a laughable one...good luck.

EDIT: I came here thinking that this was going to be a planned freighter gankfest

Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
SGT FUNYOUN
Elysian Space Navy - 1st Fleet
#4 - 2013-10-26 04:37:50 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
I don' t think that's what's meant by "Features and ideas discussion"...


Well, it IS an idea....although a laughable one...good luck.

EDIT: I came here thinking that this was going to be a planned freighter gankfest


It is laughable, and that is why it would be so effective.

Think about it.

If NO hauler moved a single piece of freight of ANY kind that didn't already belong to the pilot for an entire 7 day week... in ALL of Eve... it would snap the market in half and drive prices of EVERYTHING through the roof.

Think what Hulkaggedon does to the market every year. It effectively halts most mining and drives mineral prices up by 50% or more. The effects of each Hulkaggedon are felt for months, even years after eahc one. When I first started playing back in 2010, the price of Tritanium was like 1 Isk per, after each Hulkaggedon the price of Trit has gone up to 5 even 10 isk per unit, and did not drop back to 1 isk per until nearly 2 years later.

If all the ships in eve that move that same Tritanium from one market to another were to suddenly stop doing so for a full 7 days...

... the disaster would be enormous.

So help me spread a little chaos within the grid.

Let us protest the unfair treatment of freighters and their pilot severywhere.

It is time to take a stand.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-26 05:10:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
pssst...before drone poop wa removed price was controlled by several factors. The first hulkageddons during this time did not stop completely minerals on the market. Even crap level 4 drone missions pulled in very nice hauls of low to medium ore and the high ends weren't too bad.

Post drone poop prices are high because mission spammers no longer dump cheap mins on market.


Also check out market prices chief. Frieghters most of the time buy orders are within 20-30 mil of sell order. I know I have in the past bought one and sold it next day to have a mass moving night. Difference in price had it cheaper than Red frog rates. I could have gave them 40 mil or lose 20 mil on resale. I opted for the 20.

Basically if freighters go on strike many in eve can by and fly their own anyway. Haulers have a job because most of us just lost interest in it and pay some other guy to do it for us now. Your strike would do nothing...except cut off your nose to spite your face.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2013-10-26 06:51:19 UTC
Besides which, you already own the contents of each and every courier package you accept.

You've paid your money, you've gotten your goods. The contractor just has made a game mechanically enforced promise to buy it back at another price at another destination.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
BogWopit
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#7 - 2013-10-26 07:36:51 UTC
As a non idea thread I thought I may as well try and bring it to life.

We need another organisation type that is not hierarchical like corp > alliance. It needs to be an individual's choice and sit along side.......Trade unions :)

Miners union
Truckers union
Manufacturing union

Alright so there is no government for the unions to protect their members from but what it does do is bring members of the same profession together in a way that corps and alliance don't. We all know that a well functioning and prosperous corp or alliance needs a mix of skills and professions so have this other thing would group everyone of the same skill set into one place and might make for interesting player driven content......such as general strikes.


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Tabris Katz
The Forgotten Children
#8 - 2013-10-26 11:50:17 UTC
As much as this sounds like a good/interesting/fun (take your pick) idea, here's a fatal flaw.

"So no moving of any freight that's isn't owned by me, ok I can get behind that and it's easy to. I'm hauling my stuff to Jita, to sell it. After such said selling it won't belong to me but I won't care."

You're idea only works if the people doing hauling don't have a vested interesting in selling of such said goods. I prepose to you that most of the hauling that goes on is people moving their own goods to sell. Those that are moving corp goods are actually well thought of and paid fairly for their work. If you're not then I suggest you find a better corp.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#9 - 2013-10-26 15:43:21 UTC
No.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
Yolo
Unknown Nation
#10 - 2013-10-26 16:17:56 UTC
Kill them all! All the haulers, even if there is no profit.

- since 2003, bitches
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#11 - 2013-10-26 16:26:25 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
I don' t think that's what's meant by "Features and ideas discussion"...


Well, it IS an idea....although a laughable one...good luck.

EDIT: I came here thinking that this was going to be a planned freighter gankfest


I too am disappointed, I still have a few 1 time use tornado's sitting around from a bit of a ganking spree a year or two back.Twisted

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Luc Chastot
#12 - 2013-10-26 16:26:52 UTC
Gank freighters everywhere and people will start thinking twice before hauling anything. Promises have no value, but fear does.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Psychoactive Stimulant
#13 - 2013-10-26 17:30:21 UTC
+1, a freighter gankfest would be great for the economy! What day were you thinking, OP?
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#14 - 2013-10-27 20:18:57 UTC
Request filed to be moved to Live Events forum. I hope your Freighter Pilotting skills are better than your forum finding skills Big smile

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J A Aloysiusz
Risk Breakers
SONS of BANE
#15 - 2013-10-27 20:52:12 UTC
please do this. It would be absolutely F***ing hilarious. Especially because strikes never work out in reality - any freighter can make extra iskies by operating at a premium while all others are striking.

Prices wouldn't go through the roof. Jita bears have enough ice+ore stockpiled to withstand siege for months, and null alliances aren't going to stop running their freighters of moon goo because someone asked them pretty please.

Price spikes from these kind of events are due primarily to the speculation of the event rather than the even itself. Now get goons on board and you might cause some speculation.
Dr0000 Maulerant
Union Nanide and Tooling
#16 - 2013-10-27 22:02:56 UTC
As much as I dislike ganking, I find the most malicious, cruel players in EVE are us indy guys. Many will trip over your wreck to make a quick buck from, or even for the people who killed you.

Before you call for hi-sec indy's to stand together, look at how many are paying for the privilege of being bent over.

Tell me again about how every playstyle you dont engage in "doesn't require any effort" and everyone who does it needs to die in a fire. Be sure to mention about how you tried it once but it was too easy/boring/ethnic-homophobic slur. 
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
#17 - 2013-10-27 22:20:35 UTC
Frieghtergeddon does sound Interesting for Halloween, Everyone goes around Ganking Freighters like they do Barges.. Kill all the peaceful slow moving lumbering masses...
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#18 - 2013-10-27 22:40:06 UTC
Moving this from Features and Ideas to In Game Events.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#19 - 2013-10-27 22:58:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
SGT FUNYOUN wrote:
It is time all freighter pilots take a stand. Freighters are not nearly appreciated enough.

I am making a call to action to all freighter and hauler pilots.

On January 2nd, I call that ALL freighter and hauler pilots refuse to haul any cargo that does not personally belong to you. And for one week, we will not haul ANY cargo that does not belong to us already.

WHO'S WITH ME??!!??!!????


Nobody is with you. You are completely powerless and your words hold no meaning.

EVE existed without freighters and without mining barges. It can and will do so again if it should prove necessary. Your power over anything is imagined; you hold no sway outside the confines of your mind.

Instead, I would like to propose a true "Freightergeddon".

Freighter warp speeds will change dramatically when Rubicon arrives on Nov. 19th. Already many haulers have declared they will AFK pilot more often as a result - such that there should be a noticeable increase in the number of AFK freighters slowly lumbering along the spacelanes. This is a spectacular opportunity to cull the flock a bit, and should not be missed.
Kast Agnet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-10-28 02:35:56 UTC
SGT FUNYOUN wrote:
It is time all freighter pilots take a stand. Freighters are not nearly appreciated enough.

I am making a call to action to all freighter and hauler pilots.

On January 2nd, I call that ALL freighter and hauler pilots refuse to haul any cargo that does not personally belong to you. And for one week, we will not haul ANY cargo that does not belong to us already.

WHO'S WITH ME??!!??!!????



You're silly but I like you
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