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Valkyrie might not be coming to PC at Launch...Dust was so good we thought screw you PC Gamers?
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JamDunc
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#21 - 2013-10-25 18:18:36 UTC  |  Edited by: JamDunc
Ramona McCandless wrote:
JamDunc wrote:
UPDATE: Taken from Reddit



The reliable sources keep piling up


Sorry I forgot to link.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1p41t9/ccp_refuses_to_confirm_eve_valkyrie_on_pc/

The CCP-Manifest account has been confirmed to be the man himself. So at least we know he is listening, is he hearing though? thats a totally different question.

When things kicked off with Incarna no matter what players said all he heard was "Monicles are too expensive" it took months to break through.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#22 - 2013-10-25 18:40:18 UTC
JamDunc wrote:
So at least we know he is listening, is he hearing though? thats a totally different question.

I think you've got your expression reversed: you can hear something without listening, but you can't listen unless you can hear. Least-ways, that's how I've always heard that.

In regards to the topic, well, I'm one person who would love to give DUST a try, except I don't have a PS3, and have no intentions of getting one (or any other console, for that matter, though the Steam Box has been looking appealing). If Valkyrie is released as a console-only (or especially as an exclusive to a single console), that's another game I'll never be playing that looks to be quite a bit of fun.

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JamDunc
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#23 - 2013-10-25 18:58:46 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
JamDunc wrote:
So at least we know he is listening, is he hearing though? thats a totally different question.

I think you've got your expression reversed: you can hear something without listening, but you can't listen unless you can hear. Least-ways, that's how I've always heard that.


I did point out in an earlier post that I am not a smart man. Thanks for the correction. I am now running through past conversations in my head trying to work out how many times I sounded daft by getting that one wrong :-)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#24 - 2013-10-25 19:03:52 UTC
JamDunc wrote:
* Waves newspaper at me* See?! The Prime Minister SAID it was so!



Confirmed


Reliable source

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-10-25 19:05:17 UTC
Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.

PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#26 - 2013-10-25 19:12:12 UTC
Hammer Crendraven wrote:
Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.

PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines.


Yes

FLIGHT SIMS

do not belong on PCs

Roll

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-10-25 21:57:49 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
JamDunc wrote:
scandels



WTF ARE YOU DOING


PUT THAT THING AWAY BEFORE YOU GET US ALL KILLED


BETWEEN HIS HOWLING AND YOUR BLASTING ITS A WONDER THE WHOLE STATION DOESNT KNOW WE'RE HERE


Unsuccessful... tell Erotica1 to shut down all the garbage smashers on the General Discussion level!
SHUT DOWN ALL THE GARBAGE SMASHERS ON THE GENERAL DISCUSSION LEVEL!!!!!!

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#28 - 2013-10-25 22:29:48 UTC
Hammer Crendraven wrote:
Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.

PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines.


I wouldn't mind, but this is more development work that we're paying for that is not eve. Meanwhile we have ui improvements and ship balancing packaged as expansions, if the effort that went into dust, wod, valkyerie and numerous other side projects was done through new teams hired especially for these projects leaving eve developers to carry on with eve work things might be fine, however if all of this effort went into eve then eve would carry on being the greatest thing in sci fi gaming as opposed to its present position in which it is losing ground to new competitors with big ideas and the vision to fulfil them.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-10-26 00:07:23 UTC
Well Hilmar said outright that Valkyrie was created specifically because of the Occulus Rift.

This does not preclude that the rift won't also be for a console.

I mean why show it off at the shows with the Occulus Rift if it wasn't meant for the rift.

The issue that we should really be considering is not if Valkyrie is going to be console, but if this is the heralding of the Occulus Rift. From my impressions of the people using the dev kit on youtube, the OR is a revolutionary advance in gaming and if there impressions are to be taken in regards, then in five years if a game doesn't support the Occulus Rift then no one will play it because the Occulus Rift is that good.

The truth is that Hilmar has seen this and therefore has put 20 engineers dedicated to Valkyrie. They know Star Citizen will support the OR and that if they don't support it as well, they are going to be left in the Dust so to say.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#30 - 2013-10-26 04:11:46 UTC
I'll be blunt; I don't know what its like in other countries, but in North America, consoles are for the projects.

Release it on console and watch the PC gamers rage.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#31 - 2013-10-26 04:59:07 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Hammer Crendraven wrote:
Valkyrie, if it is being designed like I think it is, then it belongs on the console machine.

PC games are for big boys. The kiddy pool is that way>>>console machines.

Yes

FLIGHT SIMS

do not belong on PCs

Roll
Sure they do. Which is why Valkyrie is probably more suited for consoles.
Tennoku
Mercury Nation
#32 - 2013-10-27 13:36:54 UTC
Glad to see someone started this thread. David Reed's 'clarification' was irritating to read. A very big point about the exciting thing about Valkyrie is that it was a rift game. This is one of the big reasons people want it. So when CCP announced it was going to develop and release its oculus rift game everyone is excited about...well, we thought it would the oculus rift EVE online twitch dog-fighting game.

And as for PC, even though many people will like a space dog-fighting game, the people who are most excited about an EVE online twitch based dog-fighting game are going to be the EVE players. Other potential customers won't care so much about *which* IP a dog-fighting sim is set in. Might want to tap into that customer base.

CCP probably has a big opportunity for early sales and customers if they have a rift game out day 1 of the rift's commercial release. I don't see why you'd waste that opportunity -- particularly since it might also bring more players to the main EVE game as well.

And unity allows for cross platform development anyway.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#33 - 2013-10-27 14:13:58 UTC
Don't believe what CCP says.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#34 - 2013-10-27 14:44:35 UTC
Wasn't David Reed not head of CCP's mobile devision trying to figure out what CCP could do there?

Valkery for iPad and mobile phone?
Hmmm.

Muhahaha!
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#35 - 2013-10-27 17:22:27 UTC
JamDunc wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
yeah i'll just leave you to rage about it then, i'll be over here chillaxing and drinking chocolate milk

and i'm all outta milk CoolCoolCool


Not really rage, just frustration.

When all the stuff with Incarna was building the player base kept saying no. CCP kept saying yes. Eveyone knew that releasing an expansion that pretty much consisted of one room that couldn't be modified was daft.

When CCP announced Aurum players were pretty much Meh, as long as its just vanity we don't care. Then CCP went ahead and confirmed (via newsletters and emails) that they were pretty much planning on releasing ships for Aurum. Players went nuts.

When CCP said they wanted to release their new game on a console right at the end of its life the players were unanimous "WTF" CCP did it anyway.

When CCP decided to give trillions of isk to one person because of er....we want to. Players pretty much just slapped their foreheads.

I just don't understand how they think sometimes. Remember this guys job is to get positive press for CCP. Think about it, what positive press has CCP had in the last couple of years that wasn't player done? What bad press have they had that was CCP done? Is he doing his job?


As long as they still make money off subs and such, they are going to do whatever they feel like doing. It's not just CCP, but many game companies are now completely focused on profit, caring only for the users when the users start to not pay for the game. Once the subscription rates or microtransactions are back to acceptable levels, the companies dive right back into not giving a rats ass about the customers.

Profit favors the prepared
Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-10-27 18:09:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost Phius
CCP has their heads up their bums when it comes to adding onto the EVE world with these other games.

It is like they are on that island from the TV series lost.
Kate stark
#37 - 2013-10-27 18:18:32 UTC
every time i hear a game won't be out on pc, my interest in it magically disappears.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#38 - 2013-10-27 18:33:46 UTC
What do you mean Valkyrie might not be released for PC?

I'm ******* grabbing my ******* pitchfork right ******* now! ******* ****! :X
Larg Kellein
Bacon Appreciation Society
#39 - 2013-10-27 19:14:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Larg Kellein
Unless I missed something making Eve accounts cross-platform (Dust ones aren't, you sign in with a PSN account to that), they've painted themselves into a "must release on PC" corner. The CE Mystery Code is redeemed to an Eve account and provides an asset for Valkyrie, in the form of a templar (an Amarrian fighter used by carriers).
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#40 - 2013-10-27 19:26:41 UTC
worth plexing my account just to watch CCP continue to shoot themselves in the foot Twisted
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