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Clone mechanics are discrimination against the ADD community.

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Bobinu
Unsober
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#41 - 2013-10-25 12:26:10 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.
Under the current system those with ADD are more likely to forget to renew their clone after death, and get skill point loss. Where as the non disabled community gets to remember to renew their clone.

I want an auto clone upgrade option. It's only fair.


Hate to say it, but a post it note should be enough. (qudos to whom ever suggested this first)

" I have just lost SP, do I like this.... no, what can I do about this, to prevent it happening again?"

Its not rocket science.

If you can manage to renew your clone maybe PVP isnt for you, you may forget to turn on harders, run D scan, over heat weapons etc.

ADD isnt the problem, isnt ADD keeping your attention on one thing?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2013-10-25 12:26:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
1. ADD is real and if you don't believe that then you don't believe in science.

2. ADD is not a justification for changing video game mechanics.

3. Unironically using the phrase "politically correct" to dismiss a particular point of view identifies you as an irredeemable shitheel regardless of whether you have a point or not. Just don't do this, it's really stupid and does nothing for your argument.

4. This thread is terrible and I feel bad for posting in it.

uhm...

I seriously doubt scientists believe in science.
Believing in science is like believing a god/religion/ that roses are factually red.

They might believe in the scientific method, but that's not what you said.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#43 - 2013-10-25 12:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Solstice Project wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
1. ADD is real and if you don't believe that then you don't believe in science.

2. ADD is not a justification for changing video game mechanics.

3. Unironically using the phrase "politically correct" to dismiss a particular point of view identifies you as an irredeemable shitheel regardless of whether you have a point or not. Just don't do this, it's really stupid and does nothing for your argument.

4. This thread is terrible and I feel bad for posting in it.

uhm...

I seriously doubt scientists believe in science.
Believing in science is like believing a god/religion/ that roses are factually red.

They might believe in the scientific method, but that's not what you said.



In Antimatter we trustCool

and to keep this on-topic ... the real problem with making EVE nice to some group (colour blindness, whatever) if it's not over the top horrible for people without the problem that CCP is trying to solve, it'll be gamed to hell and back again ... because that's what EVE players do.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#44 - 2013-10-25 12:47:29 UTC
A.D.D the new acronym for D.U.M.B.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-10-25 12:48:29 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.


Good.


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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-10-25 13:16:47 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
1. ADD is real and if you don't believe that then you don't believe in science.

2. ADD is not a justification for changing video game mechanics.

3. Unironically using the phrase "politically correct" to dismiss a particular point of view identifies you as an irredeemable shitheel regardless of whether you have a point or not. Just don't do this, it's really stupid and does nothing for your argument.

4. This thread is terrible and I feel bad for posting in it.

uhm...

I seriously doubt scientists believe in science.
Believing in science is like believing a god/religion/ that roses are factually red.

They might believe in the scientific method, but that's not what you said.



In Antimatter we trustCool

and to keep this on-topic ... the real problem with making EVE nice to some group (colour blindness, whatever) if it's not over the top horrible for people without the problem that CCP is trying to solve, it'll be gamed to hell and back again ... because that's what EVE players do.

How to game a contrast filter that helps the colorblind community?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#47 - 2013-10-25 13:20:47 UTC
... petitions CCP to create a new skill: "Special Interest Lobbyist"...



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Ursador
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-10-25 13:32:39 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
... people with ADD.... disabled community...


ADD is not a disability.. it's an excuse.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#49 - 2013-10-25 14:08:16 UTC
OP has a weird interpretation of "discrimination". To give prejudicial and/or distinguishing treatment to individuals based on their difference from the norm is the definition of discrimination.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#50 - 2013-10-25 14:09:28 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.
Under the current system those with ADD are more likely to forget to renew their clone after death, and get skill point loss. Where as the non disabled community gets to remember to renew their clone.

I want an auto clone upgrade option. It's only fair.


CCP will do this for people, all you need to do is send them a note from your mum.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#51 - 2013-10-25 14:10:29 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.
Under the current system those with ADD are more likely to forget to renew their clone after death, and get skill point loss. Where as the non disabled community gets to remember to renew their clone.

I want an auto clone upgrade option. It's only fair.


That's not ADD, you're just bad. But sure, an option for an auto clone upgrade would be nice.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#52 - 2013-10-25 14:13:02 UTC
Confirmed

ADD sufferers cant write on post it notes in big black marker


UPDATE CLONE/UPDATE MEDBAY LOCATION

Like I have to do and

Stick it to my monitor




Do you remember to put the mission item in your cargo bay before you undock?

What About ammo?

Refuel a POS recently?

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#53 - 2013-10-25 14:16:48 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
How to game a contrast filter that helps the colorblind community?


I just used colorblind as the example ... but you know what I mean

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Winchester Steele
#54 - 2013-10-25 14:28:26 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Hmmm, imagine EVE modified so it doesn't exclude the clumsy, dumb, disorganised and out of focus.

"Use the mouse to move the red dot to the green dot, receive peanut."




I'm allergic to peanuts. This is discrimination! You will be hearing from my space lawyer shortly sir.

...

Baaldor
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2013-10-25 14:33:35 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.
Under the current system those with ADD are more likely to forget to renew their clone after death, and get skill point loss. Where as the non disabled community gets to remember to renew their clone.

I want an auto clone upgrade option. It's only fair.


Take your meds....
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#56 - 2013-10-25 14:35:55 UTC
... (no words)

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#57 - 2013-10-25 15:01:34 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Xearal wrote:
Being a person with Autism, ADD is part of my diagnosis, along with dyslexia.

And I feel bad for people like the OP posting stuff like this. There is a very simple way to avoid forgetting to update your clone, it's called thinking, and if that fails, the postit note on your screen with 'don't forget to update your clone'.

I've learned to deal with my disabilities, does that mean I can function normally? No, there's some things that I mess up regularly, and every day can be a struggle just doing ordinary things. It's a game called Life, deal with it.



How did You write all that? I couldn't write that much without at least one typo most of times. Big smile

Unless I'm drunk, my typing skill increase profoundly when I'm drunk. Shocked


I call it a spellchecker, and going over the whole thing several times to make sure I don't make Typo's, I make them often, but I've learned to recheck everything to get them all out.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-10-25 15:19:02 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.
Under the current system those with ADD are more likely to forget to renew their clone after death, and get skill point loss. Where as the non disabled community gets to remember to renew their clone.

I want an auto clone upgrade option. It's only fair.


You know people with ADD at some point become aware of their condition and learn to cope with it.

If someone is disfunctional to the point that remembering to update a clone after being podded is a problem, then perhaps they need to create a method of remembering to update the clone before undocking.
Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2013-10-25 15:20:36 UTC
Xearal wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
Xearal wrote:
Being a person with Autism, ADD is part of my diagnosis, along with dyslexia.

And I feel bad for people like the OP posting stuff like this. There is a very simple way to avoid forgetting to update your clone, it's called thinking, and if that fails, the postit note on your screen with 'don't forget to update your clone'.

I've learned to deal with my disabilities, does that mean I can function normally? No, there's some things that I mess up regularly, and every day can be a struggle just doing ordinary things. It's a game called Life, deal with it.



How did You write all that? I couldn't write that much without at least one typo most of times. Big smile

Unless I'm drunk, my typing skill increase profoundly when I'm drunk. Shocked


I call it a spellchecker, and going over the whole thing several times to make sure I don't make Typo's, I make them often, but I've learned to recheck everything to get them all out.


Spelling isn't the only thing you have to watch out for, grammar is also essential.
To Be Me
Doomheim
#60 - 2013-10-25 15:36:06 UTC
And i dont agree that because of a small minority of people the game experience of everyone else changes for the worse.

I also dont agree that because of a small minority of people we cant flame each other.

Weak minded people is weak for a reason, the world shouldnt have to adapt to them in order for their survival, THEY should adapt tot the world.

People like this is weight and a limitation for the society evolution.


Did you know that going up the river only the strong and inteligent salmons survive??

Its nature,.. And because of stupid morality human race condition themselves.

thumbs up if you like :))))