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Clone mechanics are discrimination against the ADD community.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2013-10-25 09:01:07 UTC
Siern Scottsman wrote:
Why is it that whenever someone doesn't get their way they scream discrimination? Do people believe that making accusations is a better way to get what they want than a valid, well reasoned argument?


Any learned EVE player knows that attempting to guilt trip CCP into anything is only going to be met with one response. I get the feeling this is one of those foot-stomping STO players who are used to getting their own way just by crying loudly.

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Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2013-10-25 09:02:02 UTC
Hmmm, imagine EVE modified so it doesn't exclude the clumsy, dumb, disorganised and out of focus.

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Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-10-25 09:02:46 UTC
Siern Scottsman wrote:
Why is it that whenever someone doesn't get their way they scream discrimination? Do people believe that making accusations is a better way to get what they want than a valid, well reasoned argument?

It gets them attention and hordes of politically correct derps will come to their defence. Not in EvE, thank the Maker.
Siern Scottsman
The Singularity Syndicate
#24 - 2013-10-25 09:07:18 UTC
Frank Millar wrote:
Siern Scottsman wrote:
Why is it that whenever someone doesn't get their way they scream discrimination? Do people believe that making accusations is a better way to get what they want than a valid, well reasoned argument?

It gets them attention and hordes of politically correct derps will come to their defence. Not in EvE, thank the Maker.


Wait, are there any politically correct types on eve? I thought this game was full of people who actively hunt their tears.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-10-25 09:11:23 UTC
I am Jacks complete lack of concentration.

It's Jacks fault, obviously.
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-10-25 09:12:11 UTC
AnUnskilled Pilot wrote:
Current clone mechanics are blatant discrimination against people with ADD.
Under the current system those with ADD are more likely to forget to renew their clone after death, and get skill point loss. Where as the non disabled community gets to remember to renew their clone.

I want an auto clone upgrade option. It's only fair.


can you start with what ADD means? Alzheimer?

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#27 - 2013-10-25 09:13:46 UTC
I have very short atten... Squirrel!

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Sheldor Amouh
#28 - 2013-10-25 09:25:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Sheldor Amouh
By this reasoning, they also forget to set their skill qeue, buy ammo, retarget, turn in missions, get missions, put stuff they move in their hold, adjust their PI, ah nvm. If I cant just log in and have all skills at five, have all the isk, and all the sov its discrimination!

Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.
Turelus
Utassi Security
#29 - 2013-10-25 09:43:27 UTC
As was said in a previous thread by many a week or so ago CCP can't and shouldn't change game mechanics or favour groups with disabilities. This doesn't mean CCP are cruel uncaring and not considering the needs of people, it's a requirement for a fair and balanced playing field.

If you have problems remembering your clones maybe you should start some kind of routine way of checking, set a reminder on your phone or PC to check every few hours.

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Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-10-25 09:45:02 UTC
When I was a kid there was no such thing as ADD, they called it laziness and it was cured by a slap on the ear and told to pay attention. Arrow
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-10-25 09:58:00 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
When I was a kid there was no such thing as ADD, they called it laziness and it was cured by a slap on the ear and told to pay attention. Arrow


those people said the same thing about dyslexia as well

odd how ignorant bigoted people can be wrong about something twice in a row
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-10-25 10:05:12 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
When I was a kid there was no such thing as ADD, they called it laziness and it was cured by a slap on the ear and told to pay attention. Arrow


When you were a kid, 'being different' was treated with ECT.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#33 - 2013-10-25 10:21:46 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
When I was a kid there was no such thing as ADD, they called it laziness and it was cured by a slap on the ear and told to pay attention. Arrow
You must be really really old. While the name of the disorder has changed several times over the years, ADD was first documented as a condition in the 18th century.
Nowadays doctors are pretty quick to jump to the diagnosis, I'd agree, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I'm a long term ADD sufferer, and while I see it as less of a disability and more or a negative personality trait, some people are less able to cope.
People that simply dismiss the condition are not helping anyone, and for what? What do you gain from it?

All of that said, this idea is nonsense, and obviously a troll so the thread should probably be closed.

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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-10-25 10:59:00 UTC
1. ADD is real and if you don't believe that then you don't believe in science.

2. ADD is not a justification for changing video game mechanics.

3. Unironically using the phrase "politically correct" to dismiss a particular point of view identifies you as an irredeemable shitheel regardless of whether you have a point or not. Just don't do this, it's really stupid and does nothing for your argument.

4. This thread is terrible and I feel bad for posting in it.
adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-10-25 11:02:19 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
But seriously, a button that would automatically update your clone after being podded or once the kept SP limit is exceeded, provided there's ebnough moneyz in your wallet.

What's the hurt, fewer buttons to press for the same functionality I wouldn't complain about that. Straight



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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-10-25 11:07:40 UTC
adarma wrote:
Debora Tsung wrote:
But seriously, a button that would automatically update your clone after being podded or once the kept SP limit is exceeded, provided there's ebnough moneyz in your wallet.

What's the hurt, fewer buttons to press for the same functionality I wouldn't complain about that. Straight



No. Eve = Abundance of Keys + Mouse Clicks. More the devs are happier and the box sandier Blink


Lol, agreed. We also need at least 5 confirmations before any target in Highsec can be shot.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#37 - 2013-10-25 11:09:02 UTC
Being a person with Autism, ADD is part of my diagnosis, along with dyslexia.

And I feel bad for people like the OP posting stuff like this. There is a very simple way to avoid forgetting to update your clone, it's called thinking, and if that fails, the postit note on your screen with 'don't forget to update your clone'.

I've learned to deal with my disabilities, does that mean I can function normally? No, there's some things that I mess up regularly, and every day can be a struggle just doing ordinary things. It's a game called Life, deal with it.

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Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#38 - 2013-10-25 11:52:35 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Hmmm, imagine EVE modified so it doesn't exclude the clumsy, dumb, disorganised and out of focus.

"Use the mouse to move the red dot to the green dot, receive peanut."




What about those who are Colour-blind or even allergic to nuts ?
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-10-25 12:18:14 UTC
Mra Rednu wrote:
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Hmmm, imagine EVE modified so it doesn't exclude the clumsy, dumb, disorganised and out of focus.

"Use the mouse to move the red dot to the green dot, receive peanut."




What about those who are Colour-blind or even allergic to nuts ?


Anyone allergic to nuts should avoid Eve entirely, or at least the forums.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-10-25 12:21:32 UTC
Xearal wrote:
Being a person with Autism, ADD is part of my diagnosis, along with dyslexia.

And I feel bad for people like the OP posting stuff like this. There is a very simple way to avoid forgetting to update your clone, it's called thinking, and if that fails, the postit note on your screen with 'don't forget to update your clone'.

I've learned to deal with my disabilities, does that mean I can function normally? No, there's some things that I mess up regularly, and every day can be a struggle just doing ordinary things. It's a game called Life, deal with it.



How did You write all that? I couldn't write that much without at least one typo most of times. Big smile

Unless I'm drunk, my typing skill increase profoundly when I'm drunk. Shocked

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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