Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fix amarr recons.

I know. I hack in null, too. While I currently do it with T1 frigs and T1 analyzer modules (because lack of skills) I do agree with you that a dedicated exploration ship should have a +10 bonus because with less (i.e. what I am using at the moment) at least ~20% of the L3/4 containers will pop. However the idea here is to move Cov Ops completely away from hacking and instead make them even more focused on scanning itself. Because, in my opinion we don't need two ship classes with hacking roles.

While I understand that the Stratios is meant to have high cargo capacity, could you explain why the Cerberus has more cargo capacity at 650m3? I'm just saying that as far as having space goes, you can fit up a Cerberus with 100m3 of random ammo and still stay out a long time to do Combat Sites. I know this isn't exactly the place to talk about the Cerberus, but due to the concept nerf on the Stratios from 125mb/500m3 drones to 100mb/400m3, it seems more in line with a ratting Cerberus in the sense that fitting a probe on Cerb loses a launcher, just like the drones got nerfed on the concept.

Now, the Stratios isn't "inferior" to the Cerberus in this context - it has a bonus to probing and it can armor tank to fit modules to hack and whatnot, and SoE is a humanitarian group so it naturally is not meant to have the soul-crushing DPS of a Serpentis, Gurista, or Sansha's Nation vessel might have, but I'm just not sure how well it can complete combat sites.

It's nice that you're making SoE faction, but exploration (while just adjusted) does have a new issue - it had a higher entry bar before, but you've brought that crashing down without really expanding on the depth of activities that exploration provides past one single minigame. I dunno, it's just like I've suddenly got Bejeweled popping up in my space ship game (which is cool, variety is the spice of life) but then it gets to the point where I'm playing my space ship game... to play Bejeweled. Again, this isn't the place for that kind of talk, but if you could show me a different place to say these things, I'd gladly do it :p

As for any glaring parts on paper, I can't help but wonder why the Astero has low sig radius compared to the weapon system it fights, but the Stratios has 150, which is larger than its class of ship's gun signature resolution is (125?). Is that to try and prevent "orbit-tanking" on the hull or balance it out since it has a 5th mid? One thing to keep in mind is that agility usually matters more than speed when trying to orbit "sig tank" a turret boat. Either way, due to their high agility, in combat I can see them being used in similar style to the Pilgrim -minus strong neutralizers, plus better drones- with the agility bonus making up for the lack of a tracking disruption bonus.

Not 100$ true. I 've been doign it a bit. Altough certainly the pilgroim coudl use some extra help on the form of less mass so it can orbit better.


Also the huggin needs more love with its horrible layout and 3/3 weapon system.

I hate split weapon ships. The stratios should have all it's turrets removed and the bandwidth should be put back up to 125mb/s.

Will not fly

I'm interested as to what role you have in mind for cov-ops if not scanning out and running data & relic sites. What would "more focused on scanning itself" be as a role. what exactly do you see them doing?
If there is a better way to use my buzzard and possibly Astero if I get 1 other than running into nul to scan out valuable data and relic sites, I'd be very interested to know.

** It isn't actually 2 ship classes with duplicate roles, it is Tech 1 and Tech 2 versions of the same ships.

Forums ate my post but this is in a nutshell what I think, too. Most people will probably stick to their Tengus and Ishtars.

Four neuts on a 125mbit ship is still very overpowered.

Yes Cov-ops ships do excel at scouting as you suggested and with the correct rigs do it quite fast but there is as stated T1 to T2 progression and switching ship roles in that progression makes absolutely no sense.
More than that though, if you don't live in nulsec but like to indulge in scanning out and running the data and relic sites a cov-ops is by far the best option. Who wants to spend a day or 2 in nulsec running sites only to lose everything you hacked to a gate camp on the way home?

I do understand a relative new comer being a little off course here, so for Nar Tha, keep training buddy. Get your cov-ops with 10% virus bonus and watch you income, survivability and overall fun grow. It is the same ship you are flying now, only MUCH better.

Oops. Fail post.