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Ravens and Navy Ravens Becomeing more useful in pvp ???

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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#1 - 2013-10-24 05:43:09 UTC
How many of ya'll think that Raven's Navy Ravens and why the heck not Scorpion Navy issues could be used in the future doctrines of null alliances.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#2 - 2013-10-24 05:46:38 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
How many of ya'll think that Raven's Navy Ravens and why the heck not Scorpion Navy issues could be used in the future doctrines of null alliances.

I think you meant Scorpion Ishukone watch, there are more out there than navy scorps.
Also: this is now a SOMER bashing thread.

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destiny2
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Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#3 - 2013-10-24 05:50:24 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
How many of ya'll think that Raven's Navy Ravens and why the heck not Scorpion Navy issues could be used in the future doctrines of null alliances.

I think you meant Scorpion Ishukone watch, there are more out there than navy scorps.
Also: this is now a SOMER bashing thread.



No.... i mean Scorpion navys, ravens and raven navys, ishkune watch scorpions are worthless in eve.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#4 - 2013-10-24 06:10:51 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
How many of ya'll think that Raven's Navy Ravens and why the heck not Scorpion Navy issues could be used in the future doctrines of null alliances.

I think you meant Scorpion Ishukone watch, there are more out there than navy scorps.
Also: this is now a SOMER bashing thread.



No.... i mean Scorpion navys, ravens and raven navys, ishkune watch scorpions are worthless in eve.

I like this guy! He sticks to his guns!

As for raven viability, they're good so long as they can apply full DPS using painters and webs. Its all about ease of fleet use. Though I think more null t3 fleets are becoming popular for some reason.
Col Arran
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-24 06:25:46 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
destiny2 wrote:
How many of ya'll think that Raven's Navy Ravens and why the heck not Scorpion Navy issues could be used in the future doctrines of null alliances.

I think you meant Scorpion Ishukone watch, there are more out there than navy scorps.
Also: this is now a SOMER bashing thread.



No.... i mean Scorpion navys, ravens and raven navys, ishkune watch scorpions are worthless in eve.

I like this guy! He sticks to his guns!

As for raven viability, they're good so long as they can apply full DPS using painters and webs. Its all about ease of fleet use. Though I think more null t3 fleets are becoming popular for some reason.


Pssh about time they caught onto the real fun of EvE. Running armor T3s has got to be the best fleets ever.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#6 - 2013-10-24 06:30:17 UTC
Raven's used to be one of the best pos bashing ships in the game when their torps had those pretty effects *RIP Torp Effects*
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2013-10-24 06:38:02 UTC
OP is trying to subliminally plant the suggestion that large null alliances make new doctrines using those hulls so that he may cash in his LP and rake in the dough.



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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#8 - 2013-10-24 06:44:50 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
OP is trying to subliminally plant the suggestion that large null alliances make new doctrines using those hulls so that he may cash in his LP and rake in the dough.



::golf clap::



What i only got 1.6 mill lp's on my alt for SOE, :)

Being a caldari pilot mostly invested sp into missiles, also the side bit of all turrets to their capital varients at IV, im kinda bored of turrets missiles make cool sounds :)
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#9 - 2013-10-24 09:24:48 UTC
Cruiseravens are quite good for smallscale stuff, tank like a boss with an XL-c-type SB, and all the midslots.
Also, probably going to be even better once rapid heavy allows you to plow through gatecamps. Unlike a turret battleship, getting under your guns is rather hard.
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-10-24 09:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhatar Khurin
Don't forget that typhoons (both types) are good missile BS now, maybe even better than ravens as they have better drone bay, faster, more lows. And the fleet phoon has outright damage bonuses.
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#11 - 2013-10-24 09:35:40 UTC
I've seen some alliances roam around in Raven/Foonfleets and getting good kills with them.

Ravens are fine stop whining and tell your fc to start doing raven ops

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destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#12 - 2013-10-24 16:07:00 UTC
Back when navy ravens got their first change to 8 launcher hard points i went out in one and was quite amazed on how much dps they where doing with 8 launchers.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-10-24 16:36:39 UTC
Pandemic legion has been running Raven doctrines for months now.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-10-24 16:42:51 UTC
Lloyd Roses wrote:
Cruiseravens are quite good for smallscale stuff, tank like a boss with an XL-c-type SB, and all the midslots.
Also, probably going to be even better once rapid heavy allows you to plow through gatecamps. Unlike a turret battleship, getting under your guns is rather hard.


Agreed, the RLML raven is going to be a bulldozer.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#15 - 2013-10-24 16:55:10 UTC
since thr rhml only takes advantage of rate of fire or damage bonus from the ships hull and not the velocity or explosion velocity bonus i would say the navy scorp would be epic for fleets.


though there have been some raven fleets going around though i think they are cruise based.

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