Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Indeed. If the role of the temepst (if we can call that a role) is of a huge BC, then it NEEDS to warp faster than BS. At the same rate as BC or the ship will be usles on that roole as well.

But at least hat is somethign no other ship can claim, to be useles on so many different scenarios...


Rise said he would watch for tempest performance. Well..


I HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE TEMPEST PVPing in high sec and on the low sec I have visited since the changes. All temepsts that I hear are Fleet issue and used in 0.0. Surely there are some around, but they seem more rare than blackops!


Great performer....

"Warp faster than BC" ?

I think you tried to mean BS there, +1 for this. I liked it.

Maybe, it was my incompetence in pvp with this hull (I've Minmatar BS 5 and elite tanking skills), but I wouldn't be able to win a single fight bs to bs with this ship (tried eve evolved, nano tempest and dual repper fittings). All AT. Tried on SiSi (only T2 modules at best) with odyssey 1.2

I lost to any gallente bs, including hyperion.
I tied with a caldari bs (only tried once);
I failed immediately in front of any amarr bs except abaddon, which tanked me forever, but same went for me at the same time.

This hull is awesome, but it needs some love. It seems fine with fittings, however it is maybe lacking somewhere in bonuses. Even more, maybe this BS is pretty good in shape, but BS sized AC's are not when fitted.

Or, not to left out, I am lacking serious pvp skillz, since I'm not any type of pvp guy. But on 1v1, after disruptors and neuts start to fly, not much to do left for me except some manuavering.

Any constructive ideas?

Hmm Ok, thanks for lightening that up! (=^.^=)

QFT

But again there's already a thread in commonly suggested ideas arguing about why the tempest sucks, and why projectiles are in general a subpar concept in a game that favours specialization. And this thread is from 2009(!) before the projectile buff that happened some time after it. There just seems to be a balance between blasters, pulse lasers and autocannons that is extremely hard to manage, you can hardly buff one without making the others obsolete. I think this could be solved by a rebalance of projectile ammunitions. At the moment the only ones really used are the close range high dps ones and sometimes barrage for autocannons and depleted uranium for extra tracking and range on arties. Since CCP thinks every ship should see some usage then they should also make diversity in ammunitions used a priority.

Its an interesting idea, Caldari get their EWar BS and Amarr have an unusual neut bonus so maybe there's scope for something random for all the races.

Being faster than a BC screams OP though.

I know what you mean. Surely it would obsolete other BS in a whole host of roles though?

why it would?

th ship doesnt get any better at anything it does it will stay sup par but it could fly with skirmish fleets wo slowing them down.

and thus can do smoething stronger bs cant i cant see any game breaking implications because the ship isnt that strong in general it would just be strong in that role.

if i may have overlooked something tell me but do not just put something out there without any supportive arguments



this may be a good idea but i think to work it would need to extensive changes and would possibly screw more up than it fixes

and plz stay ontopic here projectiles are discused in another thread thanks.

uhmmm can you enlighten me how you can break a ship by a buff ?

even if what you claim is true.... how will it be not the case after a buff of its warp speed?

thanks mate i know about it but i decided to start this thread to gather support for this specific idea cause the other tread is more about general stat changes.

i still hope that more people like my idea cause im very confident that it would work
and im hopeing to get feedback from CCP Rise (atleast that he read this).

+1, the idea is interesting.
The Tempest has always been somewhat of an odd duck.