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Would you put EVE on a CV?

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Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-10-23 17:11:53 UTC
No, I wouldn't.

Depending on the job and the person doing the interview, I might mention it during the interview. That happening would be highly unlikely as well.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#22 - 2013-10-23 17:20:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
I actually had a small paragraph that mentioned Eve on my portfolio. Last place I gave that to gave me a job, so...

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Because of the confidential nature of information on those reports I am unfortunately unable to show any examples of my work. And so instead, I will show some examples of hobby work I have done with XML.

...

Eve Online is an MMO (Mass Multiplayer Online) sci-fi space simulator where players vie for control of space, resources, fame or economic/political prowess. In Eve Online, spaceships can be fitted with upgrades to customise or refine their use, and the game puts certain restrictions on what can and cannot be added to the ship. The combination of upgrades you use can then be saved as a "fitting" to be shown to friends or referred to later. These "fittings" are stored as XMLs and can be manipulated to show fittings that are impossible within the constraints of the game. I have often created humorous impossible fits for friends. Below is how the fitting would be displayed in-game, and what it's XML originally looked like;


My portfolio was a website I built and this is like 1/100th of the content so they might not even have read it, but meh.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Secret Menace
Yeast in the Great Ferment
#23 - 2013-10-23 17:31:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Secret Menace
Varius Xeral wrote:
No because people will interpret you as a lazy escapist.

Maybe in another decade, when online interaction is ubiquitous.



Generally I agree with this sentiment.


As others have said, it depends on the industry.


I would go a step farther than avoiding mention on the CV. If you are a professional like a Real Estate Broker, an Attorney, a Financial Adviser or if you're climbing corporate ranks on the non IT sides of Investment Banking company's, Retail etc... being associated with an MMO is a distinct liability.

For all of you "If people don't accept me for what I am, I wouldn't work there" types...well your point is well taken...yet that's like saying that TV commercials for a product shouldn't make and economy car look fast and glamorous .

If you're selling cars, you're going to make them look sleek, efficient and aggressive. The horsepower and quality of the car itself is vital .. but when it comes down to making a purchase the buyer will have a choice between another alternative with similar attributes.

When deciding between two products of equal quality little "cosmetic" points are vital in terms of who gets the business


When it comes to winning clients or getting promotions ... when general perceptions of say " a vigorous personality" are vital.. don't ever ever use your real name associated with video games online


(if you're in an tech, engineering or accounting firm where people expect a "nerdier" personality.. it might be less damaging --- a fair many people here might qualify for being part of those fields - might not even imagine that 2/3s of the high paying professions have nothing to do with tech/enineering/accounting or don't have most clients in the fields)
Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
#24 - 2013-10-23 17:36:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr M
Depends on where I was sending the cv. But I don't think "working together with people from different countries toward a shared goal often under pressure" is a bad experience. On the other hand, if you word it like "killing pubbies for tears" maybe it's not the experience but your cv writing skills that needs to be worked on.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#25 - 2013-10-23 17:39:07 UTC
As somebody else said, it would depend on the pitch. If the interviewer seemed open-minded and receptive to this kind of thing, yes. But unless the interviewer were already familiar with EVE, the time spent explaining the background could be too much for the momentum of the interview. Everything would have to be done just right, or the interview could end on the general theme that the candidate focused it on a trivial achievement in a game.

Either way, I wouldn't put EVE accomplishments on a CV. I'd only mention them in an interview, if I was very sure it would go well. Anyway, this. Smile
Anslo
Scope Works
#26 - 2013-10-23 17:47:09 UTC
Sorry, but I'd throw out any resume that tries to pass a game off as a wanted industry skill.

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Optimo Sebiestor
The New Eden School of trade
Organization of Skill Extracting Corporations
#27 - 2013-10-23 18:18:51 UTC
Defenetly putting it on my cv when im applying to the police academy next month..
Anslo
Scope Works
#28 - 2013-10-23 18:22:37 UTC
Optimo Sebiestor wrote:
Defenetly putting it on my cv when im applying to the police academy next month..

What justification in God's green earth do you have for putting it there???

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Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-10-23 18:30:07 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Optimo Sebiestor wrote:
Defenetly putting it on my cv when im applying to the police academy next month..

What justification in God's green earth do you have for putting it there???

Maybe it's the police academy of the film series, it would fit right in...Cool

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.

Shander Maxum
Shander Maxum Universal Ltd.
#30 - 2013-10-23 19:37:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Shander Maxum
Anslo wrote:
Optimo Sebiestor wrote:
Defenetly putting it on my cv when im applying to the police academy next month..

What justification in God's green earth do you have for putting it there???



One thing he's missing, and that really is prevalent in general on the forums.. It is dangerouss to look for a right/wrong answer when there are issues created if examining multiple ways of looking at something.


Lets say (being unusually charitable to is odd thought) that 75% of the people on the application review board thought the EVE mention was a positive. That would still mean it is a negative to %25 of the panel.. even in a "very good case" scenario.

You don't put things on a CV that 25% or even 10% of key people might see as a negative in terms of work habits and temprament necessary for a job.. unless the possible good impressions it makes on others is so good that it will be enough to have the others fight to take you over another similarly qualified party.






***--- now, if it were a "CV" at an online dating site... truth in advertising saves a lot of wasted time -- if game playing is important having a mate that can tolerate that or even better, enjoy it.. would be a pertinent "love me for who I am" inclusion.
Winchester Steele
#31 - 2013-10-23 19:47:03 UTC
Dirk Utama wrote:
Just too sad.

My eve wealth is in the 10 digits, that translates to didly squat in the real world. Hence it ain't getting mentioned in a CV.



Unless you open a CCP - approved lottery.

...

Anslo
Scope Works
#32 - 2013-10-23 19:53:22 UTC
Shander Maxum wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Optimo Sebiestor wrote:
Defenetly putting it on my cv when im applying to the police academy next month..

What justification in God's green earth do you have for putting it there???



One thing he's missing, and that really is prevalent in general on the forums.. is to look for a right/wrong answer when there are matters of multiple ways of looking at something.


Lets say (being unusually charitable to is odd thought) that 75% of the people on the application review board thought the EVE mention was a positive. That would still mean it is a negative to %25 of the panel.. even in a "very good case" scenario.

You don't put things on a CV that 25% or even 10% of key people might see as a negative in terms of work habits and temprament necessary for a job.. unless the possible good impressions it makes on others is so good that it will be enough to have the others fight to take you over another similarly qualified party.






***--- now, if it were a "CV" at an online dating site... truth in advertising saves a lot of wasted time -- if game playing is important having a mate that can tolerate that or even better, enjoy it.. would be a pertinent "love me for who I am" inclusion.


+1. The multiple solutions bit actually made me think about this point:

While being able to solve a problem efficiently in multiple ways is a good thing, Master's Degree's and standardized tests prove the worth of your problem solving/critical thinking skills in a more credible way than a game record does.

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Nuela
WoT Misfits
#33 - 2013-10-23 20:00:51 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Obviously not for afk mining, but if you spent 1000s of hours teaching people and writing guides, getting rich on the market, forming and leading a corp (leadership skills,etc.) don't you think it would be a waste not to mention this? Or is that just tooo sad? Shocked


{I haven't read anything but the OP}

For the Love of all Pete...Do NOT do this!

Your resume would be passed around and laughed and made fun of for months.

I work as a manager and hire people. I also play Eve and even I would have great fun passing around your resume to coworkers and friends to laugh at.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#34 - 2013-10-23 20:10:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Obviously not for afk mining, but if you spent 1000s of hours teaching people and writing guides, getting rich on the market, forming and leading a corp (leadership skills,etc.) don't you think it would be a waste not to mention this? Or is that just tooo sad? Shocked



I have gotten so good at resume writing over the years that even strangers come to me for help.


My answer is: it depends on what you are applying for.


And this is a universal answer, because EVERY resume or CV needs to be tailored to the job you are after.

I have been on the sending end of resumes for years, and would get results only from specially tailored resumes and cover letters.

And then later on, on the receiving end, having to go through piles of submissions, usually AFTER doing my primary job at the end of the day, we need to weed out the chaff from the wheat so to speak.

The first to go are those that failed to follow simple instructions on how to send the resume.

Next are those that were unreadable. Seriously always assume the mood and disposition of the resume reader is not good (it usually isn't - it's usually a manager doing the work of more than one person, hence the reason why there's hiring going on) and so it must be readable and in good format.

Next where those that appeared to be robotically sent. I refer to those that appear to be just a copy of a resume that someone is sending out blindly. If they don't really care to tailor the resume to answer to the requirements of the job, then I don't care to read it. This is not because I want to be a douche (ee have Eve Online for that) but to give priority for those who really care about the job to take the extra measures. If someone is not employed and does not have the time to tailor the resume, that's indication of someone you don't want to hire.


So my answer to the OP is a non-answer really. It all depends on the job, and you should look up what the company is all about and how they operate, and how they would take such an entry. Some organizations will push your CV into a fire pit with a 10' pole if they see Eve as an item, others will not. You have to judge.

If in doubt, I would be general about it and not mention the game specifically and emphasize the core of the entry. If it's all about writing guides, then parlay the item into being described as a technical support of "technical writing" skill for "multi-user software". Then if you get an interview and see you are talking to gamer geeks, then you can give more details at that time. If you are in a corporate environment of older stuffed shirts, don't talk about any games at all. For an organization like that, as far as they are concerned you don't play games (because THEY don't play games).

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#35 - 2013-10-23 20:49:08 UTC
Nope, but it's also completely irrevenant to my line of work.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#36 - 2013-10-23 21:12:33 UTC
I hire people at my job, though it is a small business. I have been playing Eve for 9 years. I love it and it has taught me organizational, communication and other useful skills. That being said, if I ever saw Eve or any other game on a resume, I guarantee you I would never, ever, ever hire that person. Perhaps I might think differently if I was with CCP HR department or something similar, but barring a job where it is a real qualification, it just makes the applicant look like someone whose priorities are in the wrong place, whose understanding of what employers are likely to value is way off, and generally an applicant of questionable to poor judgment. Maybe (very maybe) it could appear as a hobby if all other qualifications are strong, but even then I would not look favorably on such an entry on a resume.

No good deed goes unpunished

Shizuka Mena
Bloodfriends
#37 - 2013-10-23 21:19:48 UTC
Both myself and a good friend of mine have used Live Action Roleplay gaming on our CV's (he works with stats for the council and I work as a care assistant) and certainly in his case and I believe in my case it contributed to us getting our current jobs. If LARPing can help then EvE can. Make sure you stress the skills that your gaming has given you and don't really talk about the game itself at all and it's fine. So you might for example want to focus on how you manage a team of 1000's motivating and coordinating them though electronic communication methods to achieve a common goal, resolve disputes with your team and between your team and other teams etc.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-10-23 23:00:42 UTC
It depends on the job your applying for
It depends if what you do in eve is relevant to that job

CEO, Director & Diplomat can all be said to require some skills that are useful in real world management roles.
Everything else .... not so much.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-10-23 23:10:24 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Teinyhr wrote:
Unless you get really lucky and have the boss of the place also play EVE.


Unless you get really UNlucky, and you ganked the boss' Rattlesnake, last week, while he was running a lowsec mission...


To be honest my boss playing eve online. i`m working in a gas station 24hours. So at some night he jump in and see that i was playing eve online. Now we are best friends. Thats almost 6 years ago. So yah sometimes a game can help the future atleast it work for me.
Michael Turate
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-10-24 00:40:11 UTC
I told some people I work with about Eve, the general feedback (once they'd stopped laughing) seemed to be along the lines of:-

"Sounds like a bunch of fat nerds c o c k fencing about made up spaceships"

Wait a minute...........