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Shadow Legions. SONS of BANE 1,764
Seven Koskanaiken Shadow Legions. SONS of BANE Likes received: 1,764	#1 - 2013-10-23 16:13:44 UTC 1 Obviously not for afk mining, but if you spent 1000s of hours teaching people and writing guides, getting rich on the market, forming and leading a corp (leadership skills,etc.) don't you think it would be a waste not to mention this? Or is that just tooo sad?

Lucas Kell

Solitude Trading

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#2 - 2013-10-23 16:16:15 UTC

That entirely depends on what job you were going for and whether what you did around EVE was relevant. I certainly wouldn't put playing EVE as a skill, nor would I put down how well (or ho badly) I pew pew.
But if you were becoming a writer and you'd written a lot about EVE, or a web developer and had developed a website around EVE, those kind of skills are easily transferable to the workplace. Managing a corp, not so much.

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Doomheim 2,352
Varius Xeral Doomheim Likes received: 2,352	#3 - 2013-10-23 16:17:17 UTC 19 No because people will interpret you as a lazy escapist. Maybe in another decade, when online interaction is ubiquitous. Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

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Dirk Utama Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 3	#4 - 2013-10-23 16:18:47 UTC 1 Just too sad. My eve wealth is in the 10 digits, that translates to didly squat in the real world. Hence it ain't getting mentioned in a CV.

Teinyhr

Ourumur

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#5 - 2013-10-23 16:19:48 UTC

Depends. In IT-industry it might not be a bad idea. If you're applying for a job in construction site then I'd probably leave it out. Simply because most people would not understand, and gaming even still has a bit of a stigma. I'm sure most would roll their eyes and say "hah, what can you learn playing some online game?" Unless you get really lucky and have the boss of the place also play EVE.

Game developers, and other software companies would probably be more understanding. So, depending on what kind of job you're applying to I'd say cautious yes, but generally no.

Solarienne

Hrimdraugar

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#6 - 2013-10-23 16:20:57 UTC

Depends on the pitch tbh. I'd possibly put it down as a 'supporting hobby' if and only if I had a relevant qualification or workplace experience to back it up. Basically frame your hobby contributions to a CV in the context of your achievements in your academic/professional life.

If you just talk about how you assist in hobbies, and that hobby is not a product of, or supported by, the company you are applying to, it is in the realm of small talk, not substance.

For example:

I enjoy developing guides that assist others in their enjoyment of [hobby], a practice that I have carried over to (or from) my posting at [job] where I was called upon to [relevant duties]. This has enabled me to not only engage with a diverse audience, both professionally and generally, but it has also improved my ability to develop based on critical feedback of my employers and peers.

As always, TAILOR your CVs to the job at hand. A template CV is ok if it is a framework, but nothing would turn most prospective employers off faster than a formulaic application (unless they provided the form - then they probably want that).

PY-RE Combat Pilot

Eaphod

Amalgamated Co-Operative Enterprise

The Gorram Shiney Alliance

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#7 - 2013-10-23 16:22:23 UTC

Varius Xeral wrote:

No because people will interpret you as a lazy escapist.

Maybe in another decade, when online interaction is ubiquitous.

Exactly this. My wife is a Human Resources manager. Even with someone who plays various games that certainly have plenty to learn from them as her husband, she says this would be a very bad idea. If for no other reason than if you end up talking about a video game in an interview, something has probably gone wrong (assuming the job is not related to the video game industry).

People just don't accept it, and honestly, we may never get to a point where it's acceptable or a "plus" considering what smaller percentage of the population treats gaming as a serious hobby rather than just another activity.

Solstice Project's Alt

Doomheim

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#8 - 2013-10-23 16:25:23 UTC

If i was the head of a community of a few thousand people,
having to make decisions influencing these thousands of people,
i would definitely point that out.

Makes no sense not to.

That said ... the three CVs i've wrote in my life were the last ones i had to write anyway. ^_^

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meh fackit 105
No Means No meh fackit Likes received: 105	#9 - 2013-10-23 16:26:14 UTC 1 if you looking for a job in london, then yes.

Seven Koskanaiken

Shadow Legions.

SONS of BANE

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#10 - 2013-10-23 16:30:40 UTC

Teinyhr wrote:

Yea well that's just it, put down you play for the poxy local 5 a side team and no one questions it, but something like running a corp of 1000 people in Eve will raise eyebrows?

BTW this is all hypothetical I'm not actually going to do it (yet) Lol

San La Muerte

Ministry of War

Amarr Empire

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#11 - 2013-10-23 16:33:35 UTC

Seven Koskanaiken wrote:

Obviously not for afk mining, but if you spent 1000s of hours teaching people and writing guides, getting rich on the market, forming and leading a corp (leadership skills,etc.) don't you think it would be a waste not to mention this? Or is that just tooo sad? Shocked

You're kidding, right?

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Spheroidal Projections 1,003
Cynter DeVries Spheroidal Projections Likes received: 1,003	#12 - 2013-10-23 16:35:01 UTC 2 Nope. I'm a Gen-Xer working for Boomer execs who don't get that whole Evercraft thing. Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead.

Varius Xeral

Doomheim

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#13 - 2013-10-23 16:35:48 UTC

Seven Koskanaiken wrote:

Teinyhr wrote:

Yea well that's just it, put down you play for the poxy local 5 a side team and no one questions it, but something like running a corp of 1000 people in Eve will raise eyebrows?

BTW this is all hypothetical I'm not actually going to do it (yet) Lol

Yeah, you're right of course, but that doesn't mean that others will recognize that they're wrong.

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Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 169
The Spod Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation Likes received: 169	#14 - 2013-10-23 16:36:40 UTC 1 Use your spy network to spot the employer characters and make a character assertion based on the intel. Should help with tailoring the CV.

Minmatar Citizen160812

The LGBT Last Supper

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#15 - 2013-10-23 16:42:47 UTC

No, but I went to an interview years ago at a small company and the guy had eve tabbed out on the PC. The friggen' appointment was for 1pm and I finally sat down at 1:45. After he finished his spiel on how great the company was I asked if that was eve on his PC. He was very embarrassed when I asked him if I just waited 45 minutes because he had a CTA go long or something. Needless to say I didn't take that job.

Velicitia

XS Tech

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#16 - 2013-10-23 16:42:58 UTC

Teinyhr wrote:

Unless you get really lucky and have the boss of the place also play EVE.

though, that could also be a reason you don't get hired ...

"Oh, what corp are you in"
"uh ... well ... Enlightened Industries"
"I see ... they're part of Goonswarm, right. Just so happens I'm with Tin Foil"
"oh... shi..."

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CCP Falcon Likes received: 13,815	#17 - 2013-10-23 16:50:09 UTC 23 I did! I guess that's uh... kinda different though CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Universe Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

No Means No

meh fackit

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#18 - 2013-10-23 16:54:00 UTC | Edited by: No Means No

world of warcraft players were considered to be better employees compared to those who dont play it.

true story..

gamers are to be amongst the best employees, turned out they have higher levels of:

focus
creativity
dedication
presistence
multi tasking capabilities
and other qualities i dont remember of

just google

edit: oh and it also says about the social part, and team work

Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2,681
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn Likes received: 2,681	#19 - 2013-10-23 16:56:33 UTC 4 Teinyhr wrote: Unless you get really lucky and have the boss of the place also play EVE. Unless you get really UNlucky, and you ganked the boss' Rattlesnake, last week, while he was running a lowsec mission... That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`