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DNSBLACK
Dirt Nap Squad
#821 - 2013-10-12 15:45:33 UTC
Argus Sorn wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Wow.

More goon tears. ♫


This keeps coming up and I am not sure why. First, look around, there are a lot of non-goons here. But, for the record, if being clear thinking and intelligent enough to see an obvious breach of business ethics when it happens makes you a goon.

I am a goon.

If seeing an obvious RMT profit making scheme for what it is and understanding that CCP shouldn't be getting in bed with or supporting and endorsing the entity responsible makes you a goon.

I am a goon.

If seeing that an explanation that involves telling me that you like SOMERblink because they hand out lots of isk is a form of influence peddling makes me a goon.

Then yes,

I am a goon!

Big smile



As much as I hate to say it. I GUESS " I AM A GOON "

Damit Argus I hate you for exposing who I am
Nolak Ataru
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#822 - 2013-10-12 17:32:02 UTC
After seeing how CCP cooperates with corporations that "add value to the game" I'd like to register my corp on this whitelist of CCPs so that I may "better help the community" by using Basilisk BPOs, new SOE ship BPOs, and an Etana BPO to "further advance the community".
Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#823 - 2013-10-12 17:46:41 UTC
DNSBLACK wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Wow.

More goon tears. ♫


This keeps coming up and I am not sure why. First, look around, there are a lot of non-goons here. But, for the record, if being clear thinking and intelligent enough to see an obvious breach of business ethics when it happens makes you a goon.

I am a goon.

If seeing an obvious RMT profit making scheme for what it is and understanding that CCP shouldn't be getting in bed with or supporting and endorsing the entity responsible makes you a goon.

I am a goon.

If seeing that an explanation that involves telling me that you like SOMERblink because they hand out lots of isk is a form of influence peddling makes me a goon.

Then yes,

I am a goon!

Big smile


Now tell the Mittani to send me my t-shirt and membership card.
As much as I hate to say it. I GUESS " I AM A GOON "

Damit Argus I hate you for exposing who I am



Now where is my membership card Mittens!
Miss Ladybird
Doomheim
#824 - 2013-10-13 00:05:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Ladybird
Dear CCP,

Please may I have an update.


  1. Is SOMERblink still operating its 'free 200m isk with every GTC' RMT business?

  2. Does SOMERblink still have the hundreds of billions in unique iscorps you spawned and gave them that everyone is so unhappy about?


Let me see so far you have done nothing. You are virtually ignoring every one of the hundreds of feedback posts, and the comments you have made are totally without substance. And you have committed to talk about this at the 'winter summit'?

Why should the entire player base be held to ransom all because you are desperately trying to ward off any negative outcomes for SOMERblink the richest entity in eve, which is hardly a step better than a Jita scammer?

Cheers,

Miss Ladybird

EDIT

Have you gotten round to skyping SOMER yet? I know you have a close relationship with him I just wondered what secretive communications you are involved in right now.

You are currently being seen to be ignoring nearly all of us, commenting hardly at all, so presumably you are doing something or speaking to someone?
Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#825 - 2013-10-18 17:54:57 UTC
CCP has ZERO integrity/credibility.

The only real question is did they ever "actually" have any integrity or have they just been trolling us the entire time post Wrangler, T20, Incarna and now SOMER RMT support.

Not looking through rose colored glasses it is clear that the greed is good faction has won in the boardroom.

Welcome to the new EACCP.Ugh
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#826 - 2013-10-19 04:21:08 UTC
Miss Ladybird wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please may I have an update.


  1. Is SOMERblink still operating its 'free 200m isk with every GTC' RMT business?

  2. Does SOMERblink still have the hundreds of billions in unique iscorps you spawned and gave them that everyone is so unhappy about?


Let me see so far you have done nothing. You are virtually ignoring every one of the hundreds of feedback posts, and the comments you have made are totally without substance. And you have committed to talk about this at the 'winter summit'?

Why should the entire player base be held to ransom all because you are desperately trying to ward off any negative outcomes for SOMERblink the richest entity in eve, which is hardly a step better than a Jita scammer?

Cheers,

Miss Ladybird

EDIT

Have you gotten round to skyping SOMER yet? I know you have a close relationship with him I just wondered what secretive communications you are involved in right now.

You are currently being seen to be ignoring nearly all of us, commenting hardly at all, so presumably you are doing something or speaking to someone?

they should use skype, it's a bit harder to leak

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#827 - 2013-10-21 04:18:36 UTC
Has this issue died without resolution?

Thank You Obama!

Maliandra
Doomheim
#828 - 2013-10-22 01:27:36 UTC
Andski wrote:
How will you address the concern that you are effectively giving a for-profit player entity a major windfall due to increased revenue from players hoping to get these prizes?
They won't.
Xeen Du'Wang
Perkone
Caldari State
#829 - 2013-10-22 11:08:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Please refrain from discussing forum moderation. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'. ISD Ezwal, Lt. Commander, Community Communication Liaisons.


Still awaiting and apology from Hellmar and 6 months of subscriptions for everyone to prove he is sincere.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#830 - 2013-10-22 12:48:23 UTC
Miss Ladybird wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please may I have an update.


  1. Is SOMERblink still operating its 'free 200m isk with every GTC' RMT business?

  2. Does SOMERblink still have the hundreds of billions in unique iscorps you spawned and gave them that everyone is so unhappy about?


Let me see so far you have done nothing. You are virtually ignoring every one of the hundreds of feedback posts, and the comments you have made are totally without substance. And you have committed to talk about this at the 'winter summit'?

Why should the entire player base be held to ransom all because you are desperately trying to ward off any negative outcomes for SOMERblink the richest entity in eve, which is hardly a step better than a Jita scammer?

Cheers,

Miss Ladybird

EDIT

Have you gotten round to skyping SOMER yet? I know you have a close relationship with him I just wondered what secretive communications you are involved in right now.

You are currently being seen to be ignoring nearly all of us, commenting hardly at all, so presumably you are doing something or speaking to someone?


CCP are playing the "do nothing to address the serious, horrific events and hope players forget"

Directly promoting a form of RMT
Directly spawning hundreds of billions for an in-game, competitive, for-profit organisation
Directly boosting the "business" of that in-game, competitive, for profit organisation via unjustifiable claims about their integrity and by giving them special items
Allowing a third party, at their discretion, to ban paying subscribers from events and new content (e.g. same IPs are banned from somer)
etc

Well I tell you what CCP, I will forget. I'll forget to re-up my subscriptions
Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#831 - 2013-10-22 16:38:15 UTC
CCP has no credibility concerning this issue and is not being accountable to the players.

EA style arrogance on full display so soon after the new hires....shocking I tell you..just shocking....ShockedRoll
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#832 - 2013-10-23 05:17:05 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
Has this issue died without resolution?

That is the resolution.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#833 - 2013-10-24 15:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have removed some personal attacks from this thread.



Thank you that you took care of this most important important issue.
Can we expect a response from CCP, or are the threads related to the topic just going to be randomly locked until people forget?


Apparently they're going with the randomly locked strategy at least for now. But coming this summer the new release will be out. Eve Online: RMT.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#834 - 2013-10-25 23:55:46 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have removed some personal attacks from this thread.

Thank you that you took care of this most important important issue.
Can we expect a response from CCP, or are the threads related to the topic just going to be randomly locked until people forget?

Apparently they're going with the randomly locked strategy at least for now. But coming this summer the new release will be out. Eve Online: RMT.

Only if you have been endorsed as honest and contributing to society (by selling gtcs) by ccp.

Please start forgetting.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#835 - 2013-10-30 16:46:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost Phius
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Apparently they're going with the randomly locked strategy at least for now.


*Snip* Please refrain from discussing forum moderation. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'. ISD Ezwal, Lt. Commander, Community Communication Liaisons.

Or just snip anything perceived as harmful to the state...Oh yeah I see now, that shows real integrity fellas... NOT.Shocked Is it 1984?Roll

You guys need a new community consultant from outside of the CCP culture. I think you ALL at CCP are just too close to see this episode clearly. Yup those glasses are all fogged up atm.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#836 - 2013-10-30 23:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Ghost Phius wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Apparently they're going with the randomly locked strategy at least for now.

*Snip* Please refrain from discussing forum moderation. If you are perceiving a problem with ISD behaviour on the forum or are disagreeing with the way (your) posts are being moderated, please feel free to read the CCP policies and follow the procedure found under the header 'Complaints'. ISD Ezwal, Lt. Commander, Community Communication Liaisons.

You guys need a new community consultant from outside of the CCP culture. I think you ALL at CCP are just too close to see this episode clearly. Yup those glasses are all fogged up atm.

Maybe we'll forget about Humpty Dumpty, and see his new alt.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#837 - 2013-11-05 14:21:16 UTC
Hey CCP remember that time you let an in game entity dictate which users could access new game content - content they could not access in any other way except via that in game player entity?

Ever feel like addressing that? They banned users who followed CCPs EULA/TOS (while skirting it themselves, but thats another issue) to the letter from taking part

How about the players who bought into this based on the statements from CCP employees about the legitimacy and trustworthiness of somer, only to then have the initial prizes replaced by something else and not be refunded their "tickets"?

Not addressing that either, huh?
Abigail Sagan
Skeleton Liberation Front
#838 - 2013-11-07 08:59:33 UTC
I don't often see CSM member's comments, but Chitsa's Edit on the 'first' was right to the spot and deserved a 'like' (I almost withheld it because of the 'first' though.)

I really don't like goon mentality and methods, but on the first page of this thread the only persons to acknowledge that CCP had not done the right thing were goons (before Chitsa's edit), and many of the goons here later in this thread are right and thus deserve the 'likes' I have given to them. On second page and from there to here to page 14 most posters have seen the light; CCP is playing favorites. Did I mention I dislike goon mentality?

I am no miner but I still don't like New World Order, but the article at minerbumping-site linked earlier in the thread also deserves a 'like' for that same reason as goons do.

There are also other people, many of them people whose opinions I have learned to respect, who are against this favoritism and have gotten new 'likes' from me for their effort. And most importantly for me (but less for you), there is also me who dislikes this favoritism.

However all the 'likes' are 'agrees' here, not actual likes, since who in their right mind would like the blatant favoritism CCP shows towards Somer Blink? CCP must remain neutral towards all player entities or watch how people vote with their wallets - or at least point their lasers at some monuments. I don't believe in lasers pointed at monuments though. However, I have already canceled my subscription, so I cannot do that again.

CCP, could you maybe stop playing favorites, please? And please stop this player entities auditing business at the same time. Both of them are bad public relations for your company and the game. You might also want to consider if gambling with RL money is allowed in PG-13 game and what kind of legal consequences you as a company might get from allowing it.

I thought I was almost finished with the thread when I reached the bottom of page 14 and I intended to read it to the end before posting. Imagine my surprise when I turned to page 15 and saw that I still have several pages to read - at the time of writing twentyseven more pages to be exact. I am not happy with CCP at the moment. Stop favoritism!
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#839 - 2013-11-07 19:31:31 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Well... f***. Talk about a big F-U.

SOMER is now offering a Billion if you buy a GTC through him. imgur screen or check his site yourself.

With this and the terrible event... I think I need a break from this game for a good while.

Nice work CCP. What a let down.

Self quote. I give up.

Signatures should be used responsibly...

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#840 - 2013-11-12 20:09:24 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
Has this issue died without resolution?



That's CCP's way of handling problems....has been for years. Cool

The resolution is this.

"We have heard your complaints, and will endeavor to cover up better next time...."

Signature removed - CCP Eterne