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Character / Quarters Expansion Brainstorming (Including some WiS)

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Aura Vampriss
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-10-20 00:17:53 UTC
SUPPORTED!! Cool
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#22 - 2013-10-22 14:39:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Bumping for great justice! Twisted

EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#23 - 2013-10-22 15:23:34 UTC
Supported!

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!

Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#24 - 2013-10-22 15:40:03 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:
Bumping for great justice! Twisted

EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition.


We shouldn't have to ask for this. This should have been a given.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Soulpirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-10-22 16:33:04 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:
Bumping for great justice! Twisted

EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition.


We shouldn't have to ask for this. This should have been a given.


CCP - If it's not done half-assed it's not done at all.

I gave up trying to get support for WiS/CQ, in fact it seems no matter what the customer
base asks for, POS/SOV/WiS/ etc etc, they seem bent on doing anything BUT what people are
asking for.

CCP gets these ideas, launches half finished features, then before they finish them they get
all excited about another great idea leaving us with a bunch of half finished features. Then
they come back to these features years later,, throw some cosmetic changes on them
and call it and "expansion"





Saber1
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-10-22 16:43:18 UTC
Soulpirate wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
Isis Dea wrote:
Bumping for great justice! Twisted

EDIT: Updated with #10, the golden pod featured within collector's edition.


We shouldn't have to ask for this. This should have been a given.


CCP - If it's not done half-assed it's not done at all.

I gave up trying to get support for WiS/CQ, in fact it seems no matter what the customer
base asks for, POS/SOV/WiS/ etc etc, they seem bent on doing anything BUT what people are
asking for.

CCP gets these ideas, launches half finished features, then before they finish them they get
all excited about another great idea leaving us with a bunch of half finished features. Then
they come back to these features years later,, throw some cosmetic changes on them
and call it and "expansion"



An opinion from an old fart... I like to think it's been some time and they're more willing to revisit this stuff if enough people show interest.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-10-22 17:45:21 UTC
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
Supported. Anything to get some attention back on Avatar gameplay. CCP have been ignoring their player base for too long.


As I was told in another thread, the WiS-wanting player base is "me and the 2 others" .. that's how CCP sees us I am starting to think.
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Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#28 - 2013-10-22 19:47:39 UTC
Absolutely everything in here. Some of this would be a great start. One thing I'd love to see, particularly once we have some CQ customization options, is the ability for one person to visit another person's CQ when they're in the same station. It could be accessed from the Guests list, and open a "wants to start a conversation"-like approval dialog box for the quarters owner to accept.

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Claire Raynor
NovaGear
#29 - 2013-10-23 07:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Raynor
Jesicasica Alba - I hear that WiS Player base is "me and just two others" crap also. I know CCP were hurt after Incarna. But there were posts from me, at least and others, back then supporting what had actually been done, but the vitriol after that was gross.

It's a shame. WiS was great. It just wasn't what the majority of people thought should have been in that expansion. So they vented on it. It in and of itself was great. There was a band wagon though - and the wagons message was different and not subjective.

But now that the bandwagon got their ship balancing, and a few years have passed. . . .Just maybe we can revisit some of the WiS stuff? I doubt it though.

TBH. The way the community blew up. If I'd been a programmer or designer working on Incarna. . . It would be with huge bitterness if I ever went back to that stuff. People lost their jobs at CCP because of the community reaction to WiS. And you really don't hear much from Hilmar anymore. . . You did before. Maybe he'd needed to move along and try something else - and tried to take his game with him. . . . But wasn't allowed. . . So he moved on and left the game behind - he's the CEO so that's telling - anyone for disinvestiture?

I'd love WiS to happen moar. I wish the reaction to Incarna had never happened. I hate people generally.

WoW - that actually really all came out there :O

It's going to be a long day.

But the one thing that narks me. . I'm still here. . I wonder how many of the hangers on who did burn Jita and all that still are? I'd feel better if there were still here. But the cynic in me thinks maybe not.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#30 - 2013-10-23 08:23:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Some aged (But still kewl) concepts for WiS gameplay and playing platforms can be found in this Assembly Hall topic

TL:DR of the broad concepts covered in the above link include:
- Star ports / Planetary landings
- Ship theft
- NPC crews and expanded NPC interaction
- Ownable NPC mission agents
- WiS explorable planetary networks (PI intergration point)
- Dust and Eve overlappable social areas on PI networks
- Cities & district ownership
- real-estate (player ownable shops, storage facilities / establishments)
- Planetary travel

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#31 - 2013-10-23 08:24:17 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
Supported. Anything to get some attention back on Avatar gameplay. CCP have been ignoring their player base for too long.


As I was told in another thread, the WiS-wanting player base is "me and the 2 others" .. that's how CCP sees us I am starting to think.


WiS has a new name babe.

Its called Star Citizen.

And its awesome in the making.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!

Yolo
Unknown Nation
#32 - 2013-10-23 08:40:14 UTC
We should be able to meet Dust players when we walk in station, being able to direct trade without leaving a trail.

- since 2003, bitches

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-10-23 11:04:59 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
J3ssica Alba wrote:
Davon Mandra'thin wrote:
Supported. Anything to get some attention back on Avatar gameplay. CCP have been ignoring their player base for too long.


As I was told in another thread, the WiS-wanting player base is "me and the 2 others" .. that's how CCP sees us I am starting to think.


WiS has a new name babe.

Its called Star Citizen.

And its awesome in the making.


I have currently pledged $1200 in that game, just dropped in another $180 yesterday as the milspec variant Hornet was released.
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#34 - 2013-10-23 15:40:46 UTC
Check out this cool old (fanfest?) video I came across with station ambulation, the old Amarrian female costume is nifty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzy7DG8VR2s

Claire Raynor
NovaGear
#35 - 2013-10-24 07:25:58 UTC
That Video is beautiful!

Awesome,

One day :)
Flamespar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-10-24 12:38:10 UTC
Lots of good suggestions.

The possibilities for avatar gameplay really spark the imagination.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#37 - 2013-10-24 13:34:00 UTC
Claire Raynor wrote:
Jesicasica Alba - I hear that WiS Player base is "me and just two others" crap also. I know CCP were hurt after Incarna. But there were posts from me, at least and others, back then supporting what had actually been done, but the vitriol after that was gross.

It's a shame. WiS was great. It just wasn't what the majority of people thought should have been in that expansion. So they vented on it. It in and of itself was great. There was a band wagon though - and the wagons message was different and not subjective.

But now that the bandwagon got their ship balancing, and a few years have passed. . . .Just maybe we can revisit some of the WiS stuff? I doubt it though.

TBH. The way the community blew up. If I'd been a programmer or designer working on Incarna. . . It would be with huge bitterness if I ever went back to that stuff. People lost their jobs at CCP because of the community reaction to WiS. And you really don't hear much from Hilmar anymore. . . You did before. Maybe he'd needed to move along and try something else - and tried to take his game with him. . . . But wasn't allowed. . . So he moved on and left the game behind - he's the CEO so that's telling - anyone for disinvestiture?

I'd love WiS to happen moar. I wish the reaction to Incarna had never happened. I hate people generally.

WoW - that actually really all came out there :O

It's going to be a long day.

But the one thing that narks me. . I'm still here. . I wonder how many of the hangers on who did burn Jita and all that still are? I'd feel better if there were still here. But the cynic in me thinks maybe not.


It wasn't just WiS being a letdown (that hurt though)... but everything else that happened with it:

- Greed is Good
- $80 monocles with a "$1000 Jeans" devblog
- No communication from CCP... (other than Pann and a few others who sounded totally different than "normal")


If CCP came out and were like "dudes, seriously, we made this expansion 1g already with the clothes and one CQ ... the other three CQ would have added another [howevermuch] to the download, and we found last-minute glitches in the corp offices that would let those no-roles new recruits get at all the things. We'll be releasing the CQ over the next 3 weeks, and soon as we fix the corp offices, we'll send those out"

Pretty sure that would have diffused most of the upset feelings over Incarna itself ... and definitely a nicer devblog about the stupid clothes.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Jonas Cooke
Frozen Silver.
Nomad Alliance
#38 - 2013-10-24 14:28:18 UTC
Isis Dea wrote:
1. More character customization. Specifically toward the differences of the other races. (As in more wartat options with Minmatar, skimpier wear with Gallente, etc.) Would be interesting if included sub-racial exclusive items. (Khanid Cyberknight wear, Brutor deactivated slave collars.)

1a. Ability to sell racial specific customization items (provided within LP stores) to other races.

1b. Drug-induced/over-use appearance effects. (Would imagine in a menu following "Scars")

1c. More augmented limbs. (A trending request from Crime & Punishment)

2. Ability to interact and get to know NPCs would be nice. (Such interviewing/interrogating assets of missions, such as the militants you just scooped, the damsel, the freedom fighter. -could possibly open doors for alternative mission ending options, where instead of completing the mission for your corporation, you cater to another questionable party. [Could allow a slow building of standings toward other factions/corporations while taking a {skill modified} hit to your own corp's.])

2a. Ability to interact with your agents face-to-face, especially if from a place of dominance and fear-inducing. In time with enough standing, you could modify this reception to something more friendly.

3. Ability to assign passengers to your captains quarters. (They would come with assorted props and would change various places around the captain's quarters with each visit.)

4. Ability to further customize planets you've set up base on, even having standings with that world. Some improvements suggested may empower (/personalize) the world more than actually help the capsuleer out, yet improving standings with the planet and overall efficiency of the P.I. interactions.

5. Ship crew evaluation. A section within quarters or the station for customizing crew/potential crew, varying per area of space and standings with the corporation owning said station. A prior (and much older) thread containing more veteran players' recommendations for crew ideas can be located here. Brief personal opinion: Crews should be able to affect an implant's worth of benefits to the ship. (These mechanics may open doors later for boarding actions, another idea that has been tossed around.) (Present crew stats in lore, as provided by CCP, and link to one of CSM's recommendations of their use.]

6. Emotes for your character. Preferably ability to switch idle animations. (ex. /happy shifts idle animation until leaving quarters to character being overall happy.) (Would not appear in chat as /me is the current command used to imply an emote via chat.)

7. Corporate war rooms. (Integrates DUST characters.) Accessed remotely applies an occasional flickering animation to the character, implying your character is being holographically projected. Similar mechanics could be used for inviting players to capsuleer quarters.

8. Additional actions within captains quarters. (Everyone's wondered why you can't lay down in your own bed.)

9. Buyable props for captains quarters. (Preferably a trophy case of your favorite [account-linked?] DUST merc?) (Perhaps a display [/freezer] case for an assigned frozen corpse?)

10. Collector's Edition Pod actually visible in CQ. People paid for it.


Only after all ships, modules and items in Eve are worth using. Maybe then WiS can be made as additional content when the core game is 'completed' to a respectible degree where you see and have to adapt to all sorts of spaceships.
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
#39 - 2013-10-24 15:04:14 UTC
Jonas Cooke wrote:


Only after all ships, modules and items in Eve are worth using. Maybe then WiS can be made as additional content when the core game is 'completed' to a respectible degree where you see and have to adapt to all sorts of spaceships.


because different groups of devs are not able to work on different things.

CCP is more than just CCP Fozzie and CCP Rise..
Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-10-25 00:07:06 UTC
It was quite disapoiting when I started to find that after all the chargen only I could see my full avatar and that I was stuck in a tiny box, more the fact that I started with a friend and were looking forward to meeting up on the station. So this would be a great boon. If they are worried about overcrowding just do what many other games do and phase the concentrations of players into their own version of the the station