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Give industy/trade more tools to interact not PVP'ers

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Nocxi
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-10-22 13:50:55 UTC
CCP says they want more player interactions but they are moving to more PVP interaction .... cause if it was just interaction they would have put in the ablitily to not sell to neg faction standing or people you've blocked. They do need to start more of a crack down on pirate/ganking too. If it was 'real life', the moment you docked in a station in high sec with neg standing or a supect/criminal flag you would be fined or your ship taken. If CCP did this it would force more interaction on pirate/ganker corps/alliances. You would see low sec trade hubs spring up ... like black market centers. Traders would have new possibilities running cargo to these black market hubs.

CCP needs to start giving industry/trade more opportunity to interact and instead of PVP'ers. We've already seen how PVP'ers can put a neg affect on industy/trade. Give industy/trade the tools to do the same.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#2 - 2013-10-22 13:53:36 UTC
Nocxi wrote:
If it was 'real life'


General D gold!
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#3 - 2013-10-22 15:39:29 UTC
People who are neg 10 already use alts or services like Black Frog to move stuff into lowsec.

We have numerous suppliers who are 'highsec dwellers' that stock markets near us, and run cargo for us for a respectable fee.

Neg 10's don't run to jita in sneaky ships to buy stuff. To do so is a death sentence.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-10-22 15:46:05 UTC
There are lowsec (and nullsec) trade hubs and traders can run cargo to them and make mad money. Feel free to go to one and buy out the entire supply of some ship or module. There, you are negatively impacting other players through trade.

(This is a common tactic in warfare.)
Baaldor
Blackwater USA Inc.
Deepwater Hooligans
#5 - 2013-10-22 15:47:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Baaldor
Isn't the market PvP...

And shouldn't the industrial types get hit with negative ratings also if they are being "bad"?


Nocxi wrote:
If it was 'real life', the moment you docked in a station in high sec with neg standing or a supect/criminal flag you would be fined or your ship taken..


Wait wait...where in the hell do you find in "REAL LIFE" flashy pirates docking in a space station, getting fined and your SPACE ship taken?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#6 - 2013-10-22 15:54:23 UTC
Nocxi wrote:
CCP says they want more player interactions but they are moving to more PVP interaction ....



ARE YOU ******* HIGH?!

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2013-10-22 16:02:39 UTC
Nocxi wrote:
They do need to start more of a crack down on pirate/ganking too.
Why?

Quote:
If CCP did this it would force more interaction on pirate/ganker corps/alliances.
No. We'd see less since it would be harder for them to engage their targets.

Quote:
CCP needs to start giving industry/trade more opportunity to interact and instead of PVP'ers.
Such as…? POCOs aren't enough? Industry and trade already has the ability to put a negative effect on industry and trade. It kind of comes with the territory.

Oh, and the reason they're moving towards PvP interaction is because it's prohibitively expensive to provide it through PvE, and it has no shelf-life since the processes behind it will very quickly be dissected and turn it into just a mechanical checklist to go through with no real interactive elements any more.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-10-22 16:03:59 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Nocxi wrote:
CCP says they want more player interactions but they are moving to more PVP interaction ....



ARE YOU ******* HIGH?!


We can but hope so. At least then he might have a better idea about how things work in the morning.
I suspect though that he is stuck in his pit of ignorance and will never understand quite how deep that pit is.
Doomed forever to look at the brief patches of light that come his way and scream out about the vast new concepts that have erupted from the synapses of both brain cells.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-10-22 16:04:04 UTC
Nocxi wrote:
If it was 'real life'


But it's not.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2013-10-22 16:06:39 UTC
Silvetica Dian wrote:

We can but hope so. At least then he might have a better idea about how things work in the morning.
I suspect though that he is stuck in his pit of ignorance and will never understand quite how deep that pit is.
Doomed forever to look at the brief patches of light that come his way and scream out about the vast new concepts that have erupted from the synapses of both brain cells.


We should test that by performing a biopsy

on his still




living brain tissue

And seeing which parts are the most sensitive to




STIMULI

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-10-22 16:08:37 UTC
What makes Eve great is you can confiscate those suspect ships yourself! Its easy peasy. Target lock, press F1. No need to rely on the government to do it. Seize the power for yourself! We're capsuleers. Its what we do.

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