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Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-09-08 17:46:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jude Lloyd
KFenn wrote:
Andski wrote:
A Hurricane will pop you.

No ****. There's alot of ships that would pop him.

In all reality in lowsec this is a cheap version of a dual-web Hookbill with a marginally larger tank (which is somewhat negated by the bigger sig radius), a little slower and more DPS. General rule of thumb is if a dual-web Hookbill can kill it, the flycather can probably also kill it. I've flown it, and I found it fun, but never really got any solo kills with it, so I can't comment on that.


Exactly.

I love how ppl who know nothing about Eve except 0.0 Blob Warfare comment on other parts of the game.

The flycatcher is great against several frigates.

Saying a Cane can kill it is incredibly useless. Thats like saying "Don't fly a Rupture! A Proteus could kill that!"

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-09-09 04:38:44 UTC
Jude Lloyd wrote:
KFenn wrote:
Andski wrote:
A Hurricane will pop you.

No ****. There's alot of ships that would pop him.

In all reality in lowsec this is a cheap version of a dual-web Hookbill with a marginally larger tank (which is somewhat negated by the bigger sig radius), a little slower and more DPS. General rule of thumb is if a dual-web Hookbill can kill it, the flycather can probably also kill it. I've flown it, and I found it fun, but never really got any solo kills with it, so I can't comment on that.


Exactly.

I love how ppl who know nothing about Eve except 0.0 Blob Warfare comment on other parts of the game.

The flycatcher is great against several frigates.

Saying a Cane can kill it is incredibly useless. Thats like saying "Don't fly a Rupture! A Proteus could kill that!"


i love how people fly solo dictors in lowsec just to die horribly when they realize that, no, you can't kill anything anywhere with your horribly fit dictor

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Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-09-09 08:37:04 UTC
You're in Goons, your opinion isn't valid.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2011-09-09 15:00:36 UTC
Jude Lloyd wrote:
You're in Goons, your opinion isn't valid.


and you're a ******* moron lolllll

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Joshke
Red's Swashbucklers Corp
Passive Paladin
#25 - 2011-09-09 15:38:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Joshke
The idea is good, but why the Flycatcher? It's tank is too weak, rockets have too small range and standard launchers (if you fit them) are weak against speed tank.

And yes, dictors are not for solo in low sec.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#26 - 2011-09-09 17:13:22 UTC
Joshke wrote:
The idea is good, but why the Flycatcher? It's tank is too weak, rockets have too small range and standard launchers (if you fit them) are weak against speed tank.

And yes, dictors are not for solo in low sec.


shut up we clearly know nothing about eve outside of 0.0 blob warfare according to jude lloyd of the honourable B A N E alliance

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Tsubutai
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2011-09-09 17:31:41 UTC
Trouble with flying a no-bubble all-gank dictor in lowsec is that while you will generally murder any frigate that comes your way, you'll die horribly to larger things and most half-decent or better frigate pilots will steer clear of you. Consequently, you'll probably struggle to get winnable fights.
Dorian Tormak
RBON United
#28 - 2011-09-09 18:50:04 UTC
Jude Lloyd wrote:
[quote=KFenn]Exactly.

I love how ppl who know nothing about Eve except 0.0 Blob Warfare comment on other parts of the game.

The flycatcher is great against several frigates.

Saying a Cane can kill it is incredibly useless. Thats like saying "Don't fly a Rupture! A Proteus could kill that!"


This. The Flycatcher goes as fast as most assault ships if you're using a deadspace afterburner; it can take on basicly the same things a Hookbill can and while it may die to bigger ships more easily due to the bigger signature radius, it is still capable of a speed tank under medium + guns. It's incredible aesthetically and it's something different.

The title of the thread is FLYCATCHER SOLO, not MY INTERDICTOR FIT FOR 0.0 BUBBLING, and the afterburner should give you roosters a clue as to where he uses it.

If you STILL don't like the Flycatcher, go watch Who You Gonna Call 2.

BUT, his opinion isn't invalid just for being in Goons; that was just an ignorant thing to say, Jude :)

Holy Satanic Christ! This is a Goddamn Signature!
Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#29 - 2011-09-09 21:17:44 UTC
Andski wrote:
A Hurricane will pop you.


What, like, no way!!

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Korg Tronix
Mole Station Nursery
#30 - 2011-09-09 21:20:32 UTC
Joshke wrote:
The idea is good, but why the Flycatcher? It's tank is too weak, rockets have too small range and standard launchers (if you fit them) are weak against speed tank.

And yes, dictors are not for solo in low sec.


Rockets have great range for a short range frigate weapon system and if you can dictate range/have proper tackle fitted you have some of the most consistent dps.

Evil: If I were creating the world I wouldn't mess about with butterflies and daffodils. I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One! [zaps one of his minions accidentally, minion screams]
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2011-09-10 04:17:47 UTC
Korg Tronix wrote:
Andski wrote:
A Hurricane will pop you.


What, like, no way!!


you have lots of alts don't you ;p

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Scorpionidae
#32 - 2011-09-10 12:48:29 UTC
First of all to the ppl say that this is a bad ship and won't work are dumb and have not watch any films made by Zach Donnel a very well known solo pvp!

Your going to need a Dead space AB for better speed Smile or try and fit a MWD!!

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foksieloy
Rockets ponies and rainbows
#33 - 2011-09-11 08:45:04 UTC
Scorpionidae wrote:
FYour going to need a Dead space AB for better speed


I will definitely consider this.

Disclaimer: I do not actually play this game, I just forum warrior.
Roktai
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2011-09-28 16:29:35 UTC
I think the problem at hand is that you are trying to make something do something it wasn't designed for. Will it kill frigates? Probably. Will a frigate pick a fight with it? Probably not. Will the first cheaply fit cane that sees it pick a fight? Yes.

It is kinda like fitting small ACs on a cane and saying I have an uber destroyer... sure it would work, but there are more effective ways to fit it.
KFenn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2011-09-28 23:13:58 UTC  |  Edited by: KFenn
Roktai wrote:
I think the problem at hand is that you are trying to make something do something it wasn't designed for. Will it kill frigates? Probably. Will a frigate pick a fight with it? Probably not. Will the first cheaply fit cane that sees it pick a fight? Yes.

It is kinda like fitting small ACs on a cane and saying I have an uber destroyer... sure it would work, but there are more effective ways to fit it.


Destroyer Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile velocity per level
3% bonus to Light Missile effectiveness against faster moving targets per level

Interdictors Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile kinetic damage per level
10% bonus to Interdiction Sphere Launcher rate of fire per level

Please tell me how this is not designed for killing frigates.

EDIT: Why the hell don't they just change that second bonus to "3% bonus to light missile explosion velocity per level", because I'm pretty sure that's what that does

Commanding Officer of the Treacle Tart Brigade
Roktai
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2011-09-28 23:34:21 UTC
@KFenn I am not disagreeing on capability. I am however stating that you can attain similar results with less money/sp involved by picking a ship which is designed PURELY for combat.
Guillame Herschel
Buffalo Soldiers
#37 - 2011-09-29 23:26:28 UTC
Roktai wrote:
@KFenn I am not disagreeing on capability. I am however stating that you can attain similar results with less money/sp involved by picking a ship which is designed PURELY for combat.


Like a Hawk. Which does similar DPS, smaller sig, better tank, more speed, less money.
Korg Leaf
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2011-09-29 23:52:24 UTC
Guillame Herschel wrote:
Roktai wrote:
@KFenn I am not disagreeing on capability. I am however stating that you can attain similar results with less money/sp involved by picking a ship which is designed PURELY for combat.


Like a Hawk. Which does similar DPS, smaller sig, better tank, more speed, less money.


This actually has roughly the same speed as a Hawk and alot more dps ill give you tank and sig though, not that the frigates that engage this will last that long
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#39 - 2011-09-30 06:01:51 UTC

TBH, I don't fight much in lowsec, so I almost always fit a bubbler on my dictors. I have used a very similar version of the flycatcher to good success, but its has some serious weaknesses.

It can take on and kill most frigate/dessie hulls, although its not a wtf pwn mobile. The ships I have caught and killed with it include dramiels, taranis', jaguars, heretics, and sabres. To do so, I find a large pipe system and drop a bubble 90km's from gate. Power to the catch point, and use dscan to determine if my target is worth engaging. When I engage, I almost always hold my target somewhere between 5.5 - 8 km's and pound them with rockets. Ships with active tanks really suffer from the nuet, but against minmatar, its typically more important to limit the incoming dps with range (especially sabres!).

Pros: Most pilots underestimate the flycatcher. This setup can dictate range on 95% of the your standard fit ships. It can bubble..

Cons: Its dps is nothing to brag about. It travels very poorly, and will always die to a gate camp. Truthfully, there are several combat inties and AFs that are more effective using a mobile warp bubble, more survivable, cheaper, and can engage a wider variety of targets.


[Flycatcher, Solo]
Damage Control II

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Medium Shield Extender II

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe

Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Small Core Defence Field Extender I
Cpt Bauer
C.A.R.E.
B.E.A.R.S.
#40 - 2011-10-03 11:20:25 UTC
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