Science & Industry

blowing up miners is always fun no matter what the sec status of the system.
If u want to stay on your own then u will need to live in npc null. It is perfectly possible to mine in npc null as many systems stay empty for much of the day. Station systems however are almost never empty and so u will need to actually mine in a system with no station. This means u will want to put up a POS in the system u mine in so u have somewhere safe to hide until the bad men leave system again.
The difficulties you will now face are getting your ore/minerals back to high sec. (scouting and wormholes would be my advice using the new T1 mineral hauler). Most sov holding alliances will have much safer systems with active intel channels warning you of predators nearby. the downside is that you will be expected to contribute to fleet fights as sov holding requires defending your stuff from people that wish to take it away.
Nowhere in eve is safe once you undock though (and nor should it be) and it is up to you what risk /reward you are prepared to accept. I should also mention that mining is the dullest and least profitable thing you and your wife could be doing in eve.

I would recommend researching Providence.

Hey i am on the process of moving all my toons to my new corp and we have a pretty good nuil sec pocket where you and your miss could mine safely and help the corp out! send me a message and lets get in TS talk a bit about this!

Cheers...

If you are in a nullsec alliance, the wardecs won't bother you unless you are back in "empire" for some reason (like trading or getting blueprints). You'll want an out-of-corp alt character to do those sorts of errands. Mercenary corps that wardec nullsec alliances almost never leave trade hubs and major routes in highsec (so you'll see them in Jita, Amarr, Niarja and Uedama and almost never otherwise). Very few merc corps will hunt you down in nullsec, and those are usually preludes to major wars (example, Pizza being hired to hunt folks in Fountain during the lead-up to Goons vs Test war).


Nullsec takes a different mentality from highsec. Among other things, you never do things by yourself. So if you are a person who wants to do things alone, you'll die a lot.

Many alliances have "call to arms" (CTA) and that means you have to drop what you are doing, get into the appropriate ship for the fleet (which you might not have the skills to sit in, nor the money to purchase) and go off to PvP. So if you don't like PvP, it is extremely likely that you'll be unhappy in nullsec. You are going to learn PvP in nullsec whether you want to or not.

As for scattering when a neut or red enters the system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct33UUhS_xg
Seriously, your alliance will have "intel channels" for reporting movements of neutrals (who are probably enemies) and enemies travelling in your region or constellation. Pay attention to those channels.

Low end minerals have been buffed significantly, and my experience is that the limiting factor for manufacturing in nullsec is now Mexallon. Plagioclase is the first rock depleted from asteroid clusters. The asteroid clusters are part of industry upgrades that are installed by the sovereignty holding alliance and installed in the system's "infrastructure hub".

if you want to mine in null sec I would suggest that you look into w-space null sec and at c4 or higher as you can close up the statics and mine relatively safe also the logestics from a wh to hi sec will be easier then from null sec to hi sec if you are good at covert ops and scanning. if you plan to do either long term invest in rorquel because refining in a pos is a guaranteed loss of 25% of your mineral if you use a refining array. Only takes about 10 bill in mineral to make up the cost of the rorquel. Use retrievers and coveters as you will loose ships eventually in even in w-space. You also have to factor in fuel cost and logistics on fuel and defense of the pos etc. Hi sec mining is not a bad option really.

The difference is that in nullsec is that it will be a lot harder for you and your wife to just do your own thing, regarding having your own corp, having a pos, and generally being able to go about your business unmolested. Despite the presence of griefers and wardeccers in highsec, a 2-man corp + alts can go a very very very very long time without ever being bothered. You can also pretty much do whatever you want.

In nullsec, some of the opportunities for profit can be greater, but on the flipside, everything is a lot more complicated. The prices you pay for goods varies greatly from empire, each null market has its own character, and the trade volume is way less than in empire. to reliably get advanced ships out there you may need to rely on carriers, jumpfreighters, or at the very least a blockade runner with some scouts. Even then, if you plan to sell your products in empire, you may end up with half your work out in null, and half in empire. That said, most renter and sov holding alliances offer jumpfreighter service, but now you're relying on other people, which is a big part of nullsec. Everything you do is affected by your immediate allies and the enemies at large. Where you mine or rat, when you can do so, where you refine, when its safe to travel, everything. You rely on allies to provide warnings of hostiles so you don't die. You rely on them to keep your station open and to allow you to dock there. Its not all bad though, it can be quite fun.

But unless you join a renter alliance as your own corp, its almost guaranteed that you won't be able to have your own pos to provide research slots. Sometimes your corp can offer them (any indy corp should), but you're effectively losing control of them that way, it involves a lot of trust, and it can be a pain in the ass in general. Also, without your own corp, you won't be able to directly share items with your wife either. Heck between me and my alts that can be a big deal.

I don't mean to scare you off however, nullsec can be a complete blast, and has a lot of advantages over highsec. Its particularly great if you like to mine (seriously), shoot red crosses, do exploration stuff, shoot people, do PI. But more than these things, the essence of nullsec is that your entire environment is shaped more by the people around you than npcs or the rocks. Because people rely on each other (even when they try not to), its inherently more social. But because its more involved, you may find you have less freedom than in hisec, and spend more time online than you otherwise would. Consequently, people with irregular play schedules often find null isn't the best fit for them, even if they like it.