Ships & Modules

I use a Kronos(rail/sentry) or navy Apoc(puls/sentry) for it, damps are not a big problem when you don't agro everything and can move a bit closer to targets with a mwd.

The key might be to utilize 1k+ dps(including sentry's) a few TCs and a mwd. Tank is not really needed, I run with 1 large rep and 2 EANM on my ships, at least if you don't grab full agro or pull to much by blowing up the trigger BS.

Welcome to the club, mate. There's nothing you can do to counter. Even if you fit full rack of sebos your range is capped at 250km and after damps you're still down to 20-something. You can try what Djego said, MWD to them.

@Djego: BTW, I don't know when you did The Blockade last time but all NPCs autoaggro upon spawn. If they don't, it means they target your drones. Just saying.

I have never been such lucky...

Against damps, there are two popular solutions employed by those who use guns:

1) MJD away and outrange their EWar by shooting from about 100 km; you will lose DPS, but eh...
2) Get on them and kill with blasters and light drones (depending on target size); you will lose time burning to stuff, but eh.

I also guess that you could use sentries if they are deployed immideately, but keep an eye on them.
After Rubicon kicks in, you'll be able to use EWar immunity of marauders to deal with the issue (if you are willing to train required skills, that's it).

Well wouldn't a rail/sentry fitting with a mwd not be like twice as fast, since it does the same dps without spending ages to get into range?



Complicated or not depends a bit on your multitasking skills, for me it is quite relaxing and a very efficient way to get them done.

Unfortunately due to the way that multiplication works (and the fact that NPC ewar isn't scripted) scripted sensor boosters cannot fully counter damps. The same is true for tracking disruptors and tracking computers.

This makes Serpentis the most annoying rats to fight with Sansha and Blood Raiders coming in second and third since their ewar can be side stepped with a missile or drone boat and a cap booster. This leaves Angles and Guristas as the easiest to kill because painters are a joke in missions and ECM is easily countered with ECCM or the appropriate T3 subsystem.

As per the above poster the bastion module got the marauders will obsolete most other ships.

For serpentis a MWD, blaster Proteus can work surprisingly well and has a good speed advantage over ships like the Astarte. The new Deimos now with active tank bonus and even more speed/lower sig may also be a fun alternative.

I could be wrong but I doubt CCP gave marauders EWAR immunity for level 4 missions.

NPC jamming isn't that big of an issue. Even on a low sensor strength ships two ECCM modules do the trick. A drone boat is always best. The cool thing about Eve is there's a counter to most everything.

That is part of it yes. The other part is simply this (I am using arbitrary numbers here to keep the math simple):

100 * 1.5 * 0.5 = 75

Which is to say that if I have a 100km targeting range, increase it by 50% with a sensor booster, and then get hit with a 50% damp I end up with a targeting range of only 75km. In other words my sensor booster cuts the effect of the damp by 50% instead of actually countering it. Due to the associative property of multiplication it doesn't matter which order the booster and damp are applied in, the result is always the same. And since NPC ewar isn't scripted you need two sensor boosters for each damp and even then the best you can do is counter part of the effect even after taking stacking penalties into account. The math is the same for tracking disruptors and tracking computers.

Now of course sensor damps and boosters don't modify your targeting range by the same amount but the basic concept remains. Each sensor booster counters 60% of one effect of one NPC damp or 30% of both effects of one NPC damp. And since there are only so many mid slots on a mission ship that can be devoted to sensor boosters the NPC ewar wins every time.

Even if you run a drone boat it still makes it hard to focus fire or select the proper targets which can greatly slow mission completion. FOF missiles at least focus fire but you still can't select your target and you have to take a hit to your DPS to use them.

This is in stark contrast to ECM which can be almost totally countered with one ECCM mod (two on a marauder) or painters which can be totally ignored.

It means NPC damps lower both your targeting range, and your scan resolution