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Hi-sec profits need to be nerfed in order to expand player activity into low/null

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Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-10-21 09:34:11 UTC
Maliandra wrote:
...Right now a person can make more ISK/hour (consistently) mining with a fleet in hi-sec than they can anywhere else doing anything else...
Bullshit.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#42 - 2013-10-21 09:44:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Sheldor Amouh wrote:
If you think there is game imbalance because of high/ low/null sec stop mining in high sec and move to null. It is ever so ironic that a game touted as a sandbox where you can do whatever you want has such a high percentage of its player base insisting the game be changed because there are people not doing what someone else wants them to.


This!!!!!

If I want to be at the whim of 0.0 splergelords I would be in a major 0.0 alliance, at this point I do what I want when I want and pay two accounts with real money, all ISK I earn is for ships and other stuff, and the only time I have ever used plex is to use ISK to get one months dual training time on my second account.

I mission in hisec, I also do sites, other peoples anoms and belt rat in 0.0 if I feel like it and like many I am fed up with the 0.0 crowd whining like babies about hisec. Nerf perfect refines, nerf minerals, nerf bounty payouts in level 4's, nerf Incursions, nerf CONCORD, nerf PI, nerf mining ships, what a whining bunch of cry babies!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#43 - 2013-10-21 09:51:41 UTC
I got the strangest feeling of deja vu.

OP, sincerely, no. Arguments for and against this have been tossed around ad nauseum and the current status quo is just - or at least mostly - fine.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-10-21 10:10:43 UTC
OP - there are areas of highsec that probably need nerfs, but I don't think the changes suggested are the right ones. They appear too strong to me. The idea isn't to force people into doing something they don't want to! It's to make living (and manufacturing etc) in low or null worth it to the people who want to live there.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-10-21 10:27:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#46 - 2013-10-21 10:35:14 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.


Falling for it, nah, it just gave me an opportunity to have a dig at 0.0 splergelords and their strident calls to nerf hisec...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
No Means No
meh fackit
#47 - 2013-10-21 10:38:24 UTC
I DO AGREE BUT I THINK MY IDEA IS BETTER!!!

THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON THE CHARACTER AGE, LETS SAY 1 YEAR OLD AND THEN THE PROFITS WOULD START TO GET LOWER AND LOWER THROUGHOUT TIME.


CAUSE NEW PEOPLE BETTER STAY IN HIGHSEC FOR AWHILE WHEN THEY START
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#48 - 2013-10-21 10:46:19 UTC
move nocxium to lowsec only
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#49 - 2013-10-21 10:52:20 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.



This

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Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-10-21 10:53:16 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
splergelords

please tell us about this word
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-10-21 11:03:04 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.


Falling for it, nah, it just gave me an opportunity to have a dig at 0.0 splergelords and their strident calls to nerf hisec...
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is the typical victim of a manipulation attempt,
not realising he was manipulated.

If we could all please pull on the same string, we all would be better off in the long run.
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#52 - 2013-10-21 11:06:53 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
move nocxium to lowsec only


more tears would flow if veldspar was moved to low sec , but its a good start.

but srrsly , dont feed the troll

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#53 - 2013-10-21 11:07:10 UTC
50*10 Mil does not a true 500 mil income make.
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#54 - 2013-10-21 11:12:56 UTC
Maliandra wrote:
Right now a person can make more ISK/hour (consistently) mining with a fleet in hi-sec than they can anywhere else doing anything else, with one exception: Hi-sec multibox mission runner/hauler ganking.


With your very first sentence you proved that you know next to nothing about hisec income possibilities.

Your credibility just went from zero to minus one million.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#55 - 2013-10-21 11:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Solstice Project wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.


Falling for it, nah, it just gave me an opportunity to have a dig at 0.0 splergelords and their strident calls to nerf hisec...
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is the typical victim of a manipulation attempt,
not realising he was manipulated.

If we could all please pull on the same string, we all would be better off in the long run.


Oooooooh jolly good I have been manipulated, oooooh that hurts, like a kick in the gooolies...

As for the question of defining a 0.0 splergelord, Malcanis would be a perfect example, I hope that was educational!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-10-21 11:51:29 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.


Falling for it, nah, it just gave me an opportunity to have a dig at 0.0 splergelords and their strident calls to nerf hisec...
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is the typical victim of a manipulation attempt,
not realising he was manipulated.

If we could all please pull on the same string, we all would be better off in the long run.


Oooooooh jolly good I have been manipulated, oooooh that hurts, like a kick in the gooolies...

As for the question of defining a 0.0 splergelord, Malcanis would be a perfect example, I hope that was educational!

Public display of idiocy.

Nice.

"Oh look i am full of hatred against [random] and my inability to cope with my feelings forces me to tell everybody"

Keep going. At least it'll get the thread locked.
Good Posting
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-10-21 11:51:42 UTC
I don't care. CCP could buff Forsaken Hubs so you could earn 5 bill per hour ratting with a single account and still i'm not going back to null sov. Now i do what i want when i want and better yet, i don't have to deal with drama queens and stupid diplos.

YOU HATE US BECAUSE WE ARE FREE
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#58 - 2013-10-21 11:55:36 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
That's a myth, that nerfing or buffing incomd helps.
It's not working that way.
You are a troll.
This thread is pointless and full of bias.

Reporting for closure.

PS: Everybody falling for it deserves a fat smack on the head.


Falling for it, nah, it just gave me an opportunity to have a dig at 0.0 splergelords and their strident calls to nerf hisec...
And here, ladies and gentlemen, is the typical victim of a manipulation attempt,
not realising he was manipulated.

If we could all please pull on the same string, we all would be better off in the long run.


Oooooooh jolly good I have been manipulated, oooooh that hurts, like a kick in the gooolies...

As for the question of defining a 0.0 splergelord, Malcanis would be a perfect example, I hope that was educational!

Public display of idiocy.

Nice.

"Oh look i am full of hatred against [random] and my inability to cope with my feelings forces me to tell everybody"

Keep going. At least it'll get the thread locked.


I was deliberately being idiotic, bit of a difference young bean, what are those silly things sticking out of your head?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#59 - 2013-10-21 12:05:42 UTC
Then players like me who run missions in high sec to pay for pvp in low sec on another account will have even less ships to throw away.

This will reduce PvP. Bad idea OP!
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-10-21 12:20:38 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
As for the question of defining a 0.0 splergelord, Malcanis would be a perfect example, I hope that was educational!

'splergelord' must be a great compliment, but can you please tell us what it means