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Peace between the Empire and the Republic, a Moderate viewpoint

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Katy Moore
J. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
#201 - 2013-10-05 22:39:24 UTC
Gabriel Darkefyre wrote:
Katy Moore wrote:

I do not believe dialogue and agreements are possible with the Shakor Republic, as I described in my opening post.

Do you ?


Ask yourself this. Do you truly believe it's as simple as Shakor being removed and everything becoming better in Amarr - Matari Relations? Were Shakor to drop dead tomorrow, who would replace him? Do you pin your hopes that it's not going to be someone who makes Shakor look like a Saint in Comparison?

The thing is, by denying even the possibility of dialogue, all you do is strengthen the extremists on both sides and by doing so, cheerfully march down the road to ruin for both of our peoples.


It is indeed not that simple. People would need convinced that the post-Shakor Republic could be trusted to uphold diplomatic agreements.

I would hope someone who is known to behave with integrity would replace him. Elsebeth Rhiannon perhaps.

What other option is there, but to hope that it would not be someone tthat would make Shakor look like a saint ?

Denying dialogue is possible, may strengthen extremists, but at this point would it even make a difference? Did not the actions of the Elder Fleet provide an enormous strengthening of the extremists ? Did not Shakor reject dialogue and discussion as "Midularite Appeasement" ?
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#202 - 2013-10-06 10:04:13 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Consider it for others then. I wasn't meaning to insult your intelligence but rather use it as a reference. I doubt all the Ammatar who were going to defect actually left the Mandate though, and if they decided to stay behind to further their goals from the inside then that would be a problem for Ardishapur. I am limited on time at the moment so we'll discuss it more later if you wish.

-Eran


I understand.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#203 - 2013-10-06 11:28:35 UTC
Katy Moore wrote:
I would hope someone who is known to behave with integrity would replace him. Elsebeth Rhiannon perhaps.


Elsebeth Rhiannon as Sanmatar ?

Well, that'd be something.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#204 - 2013-10-06 11:50:41 UTC
I don't really want to play this card, but the concept of the multilateral diplomatic framework is a Gallente Prime 'invention'. The first international organizations that was both of and independent of its members originated on Gallentia, with the idea that all members are equal (whether or not this was true in practice is another debate). CONCORD simply takes the model of the early Federation and its precursor organizations, such as the International Space Agency and the World Democracy League. None of the other major homeworlds had international organizations like this.

Meanwhile, the Amarr Empire predates such ideas by order of millenia. For the majority of its existence, it has been the sole interstellar civilization that had no pressing need to develop an advanced system of foreign diplomacy. It has only possessed such apparatus for a century and a half.

Something tells me it'll take a bit longer than that for the Amarr Empire to 'adapt' to such concepts.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#205 - 2013-10-06 13:55:15 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
I don't really want to play this card, but the concept of the multilateral diplomatic framework is a Gallente Prime 'invention'. The first international organizations that was both of and independent of its members originated on Gallentia, with the idea that all members are equal (whether or not this was true in practice is another debate). CONCORD simply takes the model of the early Federation and its precursor organizations, such as the International Space Agency and the World Democracy League. None of the other major homeworlds had international organizations like this.

Meanwhile, the Amarr Empire predates such ideas by order of millenia. For the majority of its existence, it has been the sole interstellar civilization that had no pressing need to develop an advanced system of foreign diplomacy. It has only possessed such apparatus for a century and a half.

Something tells me it'll take a bit longer than that for the Amarr Empire to 'adapt' to such concepts.


On the subject of foreign ministry, I don't know that such a thing is necessarily true, but it is true enough considering the Amarr simply stopped using diplomacy for a few centuries. It had existed in incarnations before, but I suppose it might simply be true what happens to a muscle you don't exercise. Atrophy sets in.

I may be misinterpreting your first point but, as far as an organization separate from and independent of its members, that seems to be a bit more nebulous. While for a time all organizational bodies were interconnected, today that is simply not the case. One might consider the Theology Council to be a separated version of earlier organizations. It is certainly true that the Privy Council may have a seat for the Theology Council, but in and of itself it is also an independent legislative body. Being a member of the church or Council proper definitely has broad sway to enforce its codes among all Amarrians regardless of rank (of course, as you said, whether or not this is true in practice is another matter). However, it is not considered a part of the Privy Council directly, only that it has had relatively more and less say as its number of assigned seats has wavered throughout history. Historians can probably point to several others, developed independently of Gallentean society.

I suppose it's difficult to claim to have originated a concept considering they seem to have common threads and corollaries that were developed independently of one another. Intergalactic diplomacy is comparatively new in the cluster, so unless we have adopted something directly since then, it isn't necessarily accurate to say it is one of our 'inventions'. As a man who can't claim to know everything about history, it might be true to say Gallente society was the first to develop it and thus has the most august of these institutions. Whether that is true or not, I think most of us can point to an organization in our government that is necessarily independent of, but still made up of members of, the government.

In the end, that might be simply because having an organization like CONCORD is a good idea in practice. Sometimes divorcing a governing body from the rest of its subjects governments gives it some ability for objectivity. Of course, it might also mean that the body simply acts in its own interests rather than the greater interest of its subjects. Obviously, CONCORD might have every reason to act similarly to every government without as much discrimination, but CONCORD also has no reason to promote intergalactic cooperation. If we do ever learn to get along in relative peace, CONCORD will probably find itself out of work.

It would not be the first time an organization has generated conflict simply to give itself a good reason to stay in power.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Cain Aloga
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#206 - 2013-10-07 20:23:30 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
....They may have Matari blood coursing through their veins but they are not the Matari accepted in it's mainline society, much like the Outcasts on Vo'Shun.
-Eran


The goal is not to indoctrinate them. We are not the Amarr. When I speak with those who have known nothing but the empire, My goal is to educate. Educate them about our history, educate them about our culture, our beliefs and our customs. It is my belief that once in possession of that knowledge, of who you are, where you come from, they will choose to live their lives the Matari way, whether it be in within the Republic, or without. However, as can be seen by the willfull return of many back into Amarr space, there is nothing stopping them from returning. I merely wish to provide them with a choice. Unfortunately not all seem comfortable with having one.

Lyn Farel wrote:

Also, the Ammatar that did not leave are hardly to blame for what the other did. They still live Reclaimed as far as I know.


Miss Farel, I would be interested in knowing how you feel about those of your kin that left the Mandate to Return to the Republic?

Chinwe Rhei wrote:
There couldn't be a worse time to seek peace with the Amarr empire than today.

The Amarr - as they are only too happy to remind you - base their entire foreign policy on the will of their God, as proclaimed by their Emperor and interpreted by their scholars. They didn't even have a real concept of peace and coexistence with other cultures until they were utterly humiliated in battle by the Jovians and forced to look inward and conclude that God must've turned his favor away from the Empire.


I agree, in essence with what Captain Rhei is saying, albeit in a slight, less aggressive manner. Many of my people are so thoroughly opposed to the Amar, including myself, because the Amar do not want peace. They want to convert the rest of the cluster to their religion, no matter the cost. Yes, the new wave of the reclaiming seems to have taken the form a social, economic, and more peaceful approach, however what would happen if it, in the long run, fails to convert those out side of the Amar border. Will the Theology Council resort once more to conquest?

In essence, as long as Amarrian forighn policy is led by:
"I give to you the destiny of Faith,
And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:
Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13

Then there will not be peace. Any accord, treaty, agreement with the Amar is only temporary, postponing the inevitable.

In truth, I see only two ways true lasting peace can be achieved. The first is when the Amar abandon their zealous quest to convert all others, learn to accept others and their differences, and live and accept the fact people just dont want to convert and just be left alone.

The second is when the Amar and their navy have been de-clawed. Whether it is the Minmatar, the Caldari, the Federation, or any combination of the three that achieves it, the only other way that I see the Amar accepting true peace is for their navy to suffer such catastrophic defeats that they dare never again to rise up and thirst for conquest.

If any alternatives exist, I would be glad to discuss them either here, on a separate thread, or in private.

While our warriors fight for our people's freedom, we in turn should fight for our people's prosperity.

Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#207 - 2013-10-08 19:16:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyn Farel
Cain Aloga wrote:

Lyn Farel wrote:

Also, the Ammatar that did not leave are hardly to blame for what the other did. They still live Reclaimed as far as I know.


Miss Farel, I would be interested in knowing how you feel about those of your kin that left the Mandate to Return to the Republic?


Besides the fact that some of them might have been complicit in the attack on Halturzhan and acted against their own ? They just left their offspring in a dire condition without much consideration for them since all the years they spent in this masquerade was not to protect their own children, but the Starkmanir tribe.

I do not feel especially anything. Good grief.
Matar Ronin
#208 - 2013-10-09 16:38:23 UTC
Quote:
In many conversations I have been asked the question why are the Amarr so evil, and my answer to the question is I hope instructive, a people do not have to be evil, to do evil things.

If we as believers in the One True God reject evil in all its forms, in all its myriad wicked sordid putrid manifestations, then it is only logical we have to do everything in our power to break the Amarr people of their evil ways. They are infected with the disease of evil cruel inhumanity, we have to help them recognize this gross sickness, because many are in denial, held in the intense thrall from the benefits drawn from the enslavement of other innocent human beings, we as believers in the One True God must help them seek the cure for this multigenerational horrible illness. We as believers in the One True God must be ready to stand at their side during their recovery, not empowered by vengeance, for if we go down that path we shall have merely transferred their infection of evil ways from them to us. We must stand side by side with the Amarr during their recovery steadfastly fortified by reconciliation, compassion, forgiveness, and humility in our efforts to redirect a wicked evil inhumane culture back towards the path of true humanity.

Do not hate the Amarr, for nothing good comes from hate, love yourself, love your neighbor, love the One True God enough to want to help the Amarr have a future that does not embrace slavery or military conquest, the yet to be born Amarr must have an opportunity to travel the universe without the burden of their ancestors' evil wicked ways, the yet to be born of all of humanity need to claim their right at birth of freedom, liberty, and equality of opportunity.

Hate is not the key to unlock the shackles of slavery that are holding closed the door of our shared peaceful future, do not hate the Amarr, help cure the Amarr, help cure all of humanity. L.O.V.E. will blaze the path, follow in their aftermath to heal an enable the recovery of all of the One True God's people.

Ray-Of Matar, Emissary of The One True God
From his sermon: Edge Of The Abyss
L.O.V.E. will blaze the path to a just peace.

‘Vain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.’

" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.

Ray Mitar
Ganksters Inc
#209 - 2013-10-11 08:00:50 UTC
Cain Aloga wrote:
Many of my people are so thoroughly opposed to the Amar, including myself, because the Amar do not want peace. They want to convert the rest of the cluster to their religion, no matter the cost. Yes, the new wave of the reclaiming seems to have taken the form a social, economic, and more peaceful approach, however what would happen if it, in the long run, fails to convert those out side of the Amar border. Will the Theology Council resort once more to conquest?

Cain Aloga do not be fooled the violence continues unabated everyday. Do not be seduced by the soft words of the ego driven clergyman, or his chorus of slavery loving apologists, and certainly not the foul utterances of traitors.

There will be peace when we take it with the power of our own hands, and enforce it with the power of our technological military prowess. With the support we have enjoyed from the Gallente and the Caldari we have our feet under ourselves well enough to plot our own path to liberty. The day will soon be at hand when we wrest freedom from the grip of the slavery cult and the Matari people cluster wide are free to settle where ever they might choose and be accepted as free citizens.

We must take what is ours, ours by birthright as humans. The Emissary of the One True God has come to give us this message of emancipation, you would do well to prepare to do your part.
Isis Dea
Society of Adrift Hope
#210 - 2013-10-11 14:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Isis Dea
Ray Mitar wrote:
Cain Aloga wrote:
Many of my people are so thoroughly opposed to the Amar, including myself, because the Amar do not want peace. They want to convert the rest of the cluster to their religion, no matter the cost. Yes, the new wave of the reclaiming seems to have taken the form a social, economic, and more peaceful approach, however what would happen if it, in the long run, fails to convert those out side of the Amar border. Will the Theology Council resort once more to conquest?

Cain Aloga do not be fooled the violence continues unabated everyday. Do not be seduced by the soft words of the ego driven clergyman, or his chorus of slavery loving apologists, and certainly not the foul utterances of traitors.

There will be peace when we take it with the power of our own hands, and enforce it with the power of our technological military prowess. With the support we have enjoyed from the Gallente and the Caldari we have our feet under ourselves well enough to plot our own path to liberty. The day will soon be at hand when we wrest freedom from the grip of the slavery cult and the Matari people cluster wide are free to settle where ever they might choose and be accepted as free citizens.

We must take what is ours, ours by birthright as humans. The Emissary of the One True God has come to give us this message of emancipation, you would do well to prepare to do your part.


Oh that's cute. To be accepted, as a series of races and minorities, what is that?

We started a peaceful coexistance of multiple Tribes. Then war came. Reality as we've known it has forever been shattered.

Cain Aloga would preserve the past hoping to mend the future. There might be some worth to that.

But now generations have cycled, we live and breathe war now. Minmatar as a whole has evolved. Life under constant threat has sharpened us into the most interesting of instinctual killers.

Suddenly, to be accepted, is no easy task for anyone else.

For so many of us, spilled blood is our lifeline. We mourn through the thunder of autocannons and the volley of artillery. We carve our remembrance with the stroke of blades. Because we are still living under the constant threat even long after we've been freed from it.

Some still try to find escape in the ways of old. Many, including me, view that time and all things associated as vehicles to the history repeating itself.

For us, there is no safety, there is no true freedom, none unless you were to erase everyone else except your fellow trusted kin from the face existence. But then we'd be even more alone.

For everyone who rallies under the call that WE NEED TO FREE THE SLAVES need to take a step back and pause. I'm sure not all of Amarrian society is evil. They might be corrupt as man can be, rallying under the call of God, but there is a silver lining to them:

They accept us.

A cruel effect that is because of the Amarrians' own doing in the first place. Then again, there are some Amarrians who've prospected that if it wasn't them to come along and take advantage of our people, someone else would have in time.

Should that be the peaceful indoctrination into a society that isn't our own, or forcing complete changes to our old ways of life individual to each of our Tribes, the Amarrians have taught us how to defend what is truly ours as well as how to now contest the stars as viciously as any other power, even if we only have scraps and a feral barbaric society to our name.

Sure there will always be violence. Sure we will never forgive them. But as we prospect us finding ways to stand on our own two feet again and be accepted in who we are now, just remember:

They understand us; our needed violent nature, and they are presently the only power who accepts us in that.



P.S. Try mourning through violence in Gallente or Caldari societies. You'll be tried as a murderer. But in Amarrian society, you're just being savage, you're just being Minmatar. Sure there might be vitoc and a collar awaiting you, but you're not killed because of who or what you are. No, they invest in you, they protect society from you, even if that society would be your own people.

More Character Customization :: Especially compared to what we had in 2003...

Cain Aloga
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#211 - 2013-10-11 16:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Cain Aloga
Ray Mitar wrote:
We must take what is ours, ours by birthright as humans. The Emissary of the One True God has come to give us this message of emancipation, you would do well to prepare to do your part.


I do not know this emissary, not of his message, but I can say that I agree with your fist sentence.

The Amarr have their Ideology, which propels them forward into conquering us all and subjugating us. They do not offer peace. The only way for us to achieve peace is for us to strengthen ourselves as a nation of tribes. We must strengthen our selves such that the Amarr would crash against our borders like insects against a wall. As I have said, the only way to achieve peace is for the Amarr to abandon their incisive lust for conquest and conversion. This will only happen once they see that they cannot, in fact conquer us, that we can match their strength, both culturally and militarily, and that their reclaiming has failed. Once they realize that they must learn to coexist with their neighbors, can there be peace.

In order for us to achieve this, we must strengthen our Republic in all aspects. Economically, socially, culturally, and yes militarily; we can not ignore any of these aspects in favor of any one. This will require that the Seven Tribes, finally reunited thanks to the Elder Fleet, work together and achieve this greatness.

While our warriors fight for our people's freedom, we in turn should fight for our people's prosperity.

Darian en Chasteaux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#212 - 2013-10-21 06:19:04 UTC
Greetings,

I need some rest...I will read this later...

Darian
Kyllsa Siikanen
Tuonelan Virta
#213 - 2013-10-21 10:18:19 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
Katy Moore wrote:
I would hope someone who is known to behave with integrity would replace him. Elsebeth Rhiannon perhaps.


Elsebeth Rhiannon as Sanmatar ?

Well, that'd be something.


All part of the Big Plan.

Of course, we'd have to teach her how to properly speak Sebiestor. Damned southerners.

“Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.” 

― C.S. Lewis 

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#214 - 2013-10-21 15:46:16 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
Katy Moore wrote:
I would hope someone who is known to behave with integrity would replace him. Elsebeth Rhiannon perhaps.


Elsebeth Rhiannon as Sanmatar ?

Well, that'd be something.


All part of the Big Plan.

Of course, we'd have to teach her how to properly speak Sebiestor. Damned southerners.


You're going to abrade her vocal chords with some sort of grater?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#215 - 2014-01-19 01:11:32 UTC
Katy Moore wrote:



So, as long as Maleatu Shakor lives, and is in power, there can be no peace treaty with the Shakor Republic. But Maleatu Shakor is a capsuleer, so he is pseudo-immortal. Which is somewhat of an impasse.


Ms. Moore, given that it is no longer the "Shakor" Republic, but now organized differently, what are your thoughts? Is a peace possible given the new authorities in the Republic if the two sides were to arrive at the negotiation table?
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#216 - 2014-01-19 13:16:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Ray Mitar wrote:
Centuries of horrific slavery and pillaging can not be counter balanced by the few years of armed resistance and sabotage enacted by freedom fighters and or terrorists.


"A few years of armed resistance?" You really need to check your history books. The Republic has been launching terrorist attacks against the Empire for over 135 years now.

Zsaryna Adrelana wrote:
You want us to give you territory?
Then reassure us that it won't be used as a springboard for some kind of revenge attack..


Technically, it's our territory. The Minmatar Empire spanned a whopping three (3) whole systems back when we first conquered them. Every other system you see in the Republic used to be an Amarr Empire system. I think we've given up more than enough ground already, thankyouverymuch. You don't need any more space. What you need is to figure out how birth control works.

Ray Mitar wrote:
The Amarr conquered our worlds and killed untold millions with inhumane orbital bombardments, they still hold some of our ancestral worlds and billions of Matari in vicious slavery


First: Orbital bombardment? Citation needed, bub. Orbital bombardment does not mesh with conquering a population. That's more of a Federation thing. Y'know, that whole "We come in peace, now scorch the whole planet" mentality that makes you two get along so famously. In fact, I'm not even sure that kind of tech was even around back then. I remember reading lots about transport ships landing, but orbital bombardment? Massacres? Oh wait, you must be quoting from Shakor's Book of Revised History... you know, the one where the Matari invented the EvE Gate and how the Jovians learned all their science from you guys. Yeah, I'm familiar with it. I keep one in my bathroom for when I run out of toilet paper.

Second: See above. We don't own any Matari "ancestral worlds" - quite the opposite, in fact. It is the Republic that currently holds a lot of Amarrian ancestral worlds. 277 of them, in fact.

So how about this for a fair trade? We give you back all of "your people" and you give us back all of our planets? I'd be totally fine with that. After all, it's just dirt. The freedom of all of "your people" matters more than clinging to stolen power & territory, right?

Gaven Lok'ri wrote:
The only road to peace is for Shakor to be removed from power and delivered to justice along with everyone else involved in the illegal attacks on Amarr and CONCORD. Any discussion that does not start with that step is futile.


Agreed. Shakor out, Midular in. If they want to talk like actual civilized people they need to start by putting one in charge.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#217 - 2014-01-19 13:59:02 UTC
Why did someone necro this?

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"

Ray Mitar
Ganksters Inc
#218 - 2014-01-20 01:20:29 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:

First: Orbital bombardment? Citation needed, bub. Orbital bombardment does not mesh with conquering a population. That's more of a Federation thing. Y'know, that whole "We come in peace, now scorch the whole planet" mentality that makes you two get along so famously. In fact, I'm not even sure that kind of tech was even around back then. I remember reading lots about transport ships landing, but orbital bombardment? Massacres?
First I am not surprised that you know nothing of the well documented history of the amarr invasions, that would indicate you would have a mind open enough to seek the truth.

Second I am surprised to see you have reformed your cowardly corp and have the nerve to speak in public again. Your quick surrender to our last wardec showed your true nature.

Read the history, the public history, and pull your head out of your rear end. You sound so childishly foolish.

However there is no point in engaging with Ammatar cowards who both surrender quickly and disband their corp when a wardec is filed, but come to think of it that it is what your ilk do, surrender when a threat is presented. Cowardice is your heritage.
N'maro Makari
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#219 - 2014-01-20 03:16:20 UTC  |  Edited by: N'maro Makari
Katran Luftschreck wrote:

First: Orbital bombardment? Citation needed, bub. Orbital bombardment does not mesh with conquering a population. That's more of a Federation thing. Y'know, that whole "We come in peace, now scorch the whole planet" mentality that makes you two get along so famously. In fact, I'm not even sure that kind of tech was even around back then. I remember reading lots about transport ships landing, but orbital bombardment? Massacres?



Quote:
Spear Lieutenant is a junior commissioned rank in the Tribal Liberation Force. It ranks above Spike Lieutenant and immediately below Venge Captain.

"The initial volleys neutralized sixty-eight separate defense batteries while removing a mere ninety-eight thousand Minmatar from the viable worker stock. Praise unto God."

- Intercepted Amarr Navy transmission during orbital bombardment of "Eanna", Planet VI, The Hror System


The chest-beating and blustering will not advance anyone's understanding or settle your own demons. I hope you find some peace, spirits knows this cluster needs it.

**Vherokior **

Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#220 - 2014-01-20 04:20:10 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:

First: Orbital bombardment? Citation needed, bub. Orbital bombardment does not mesh with conquering a population. That's more of a Federation thing. Y'know, that whole "We come in peace, now scorch the whole planet" mentality that makes you two get along so famously. In fact, I'm not even sure that kind of tech was even around back then. I remember reading lots about transport ships landing, but orbital bombardment? Massacres?



Quote:
Spear Lieutenant is a junior commissioned rank in the Tribal Liberation Force. It ranks above Spike Lieutenant and immediately below Venge Captain.

"The initial volleys neutralized sixty-eight separate defense batteries while removing a mere ninety-eight thousand Minmatar from the viable worker stock. Praise unto God."

- Intercepted Amarr Navy transmission during orbital bombardment of "Eanna", Planet VI, The Hror System


The chest-beating and blustering will not advance anyone's understanding or settle your own demons. I hope you find some peace, spirits knows this cluster needs it.

There were no orbital bombardments during the reign of the Emperor Damius III, so her point still stands.