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Make it a scram or long point to encourage PvP fits. See? All it needs is a little imagination

I don't smoke. It's bad for you. And what do you mean "there are already sites that do this". I wasn't aware of any sites that give you a suspect flag when you hack them.

I am more interested in opportunities for player interactions (read "shooting each other") than isk rewards in the relative safety that a sig site affords. If they don't provide a suspect flag in high then, meh, I don't care either way.

Site ninjas? I mean for the person who actually hacks the thing. You know, the one who gets the isk and should therefore have the risk.

Actually it will not drive conflict in high sec. It will just be content that gets ignored by the vast majority of high sec players. To see this CCP Affinity, ask someone to look up how many expeditions that start in high sec but go to low sec are actually completed.

Those skills have plenty of uses as-is. If you have excellent Astrometrics skills, you can scan down existing sites with a normal probe, or you can fit an expanded launcher and put your skills to the test scanning down mission runners in highsec (to bait them) or people running expeditions in low/null. They are exceptionally useful skills in all types of space, ones I wish I had trained to higher levels myself.

If these new sites are scanning-required and (relatively) safe from PVP, we will not see more opportunities for highsec explorers to make ISK. We will see a flow of some highsec bears from missions toward running the new sites, until a new equilibrium in average perceived ISK/hour is reached between Ghost sites and L4s. You can see this dynamic in action now - we are seeing a minority of Incursion bears shifting focus to blitzing Sisters missions due to a (correct) perception that Sisters LP are worth more than a month ago. (Or at Odyssey launch, when for a week or so after decryptor drop rates increased every bear with the skills started hacking for a while until the equilibrium returned).

Finally, because these sites will not be up for long and will be completed quickly, making them scan-down sites means that anyone that does not have a scanning ship fitted within at most two jumps is out of contention for them in highsec. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the percentage of highsec players that are too risk averse to consider going suspect is smaller than the percentage that do not have an exploration fitted ship available 'right now'.


One further thought in support of the Crimewatch yellow card idea. When I was a carebear, I wasn't so much afraid of lowsec as I was of high to low gates, and I believe this fear is pretty widespread and not totally unfounded. Yellow carding people for looting gives you a choice - prealign and take one can (the safe way), or stand your ground and dabble in PVP in an environment where neutral logistics and off-grid boosting are less likely than in the rest of highsec. (Neutral logi and OGB are a given whenever PVP occurs in a highsec system where one side had planned for it, but are rare when you need to engage spontaneously).

And for those that wish to take advantage of this all they have to do is warp in after the site spawns, cloak up, wait for player x to come in and open a can, uncloak, gank expensive ship. The rage will be amazing.

If CCP don't make these sites sigs, I hope they do the above game breaking mechanic for bears everywhere.

More likely, the ganker will get in location, cloak up, and the bear will 'complete' the site, then get the message "You cannot perform this action at green safety". They ask about it in local, then decide not to take the risk.

In my experience it is difficult to get carebears to go suspect, which is why I prefer AWOX piracy to piracy arising from ninja looting.

CCP released stats indicating that ~70% of the highsec population live on green safety.


I'd have nothing against the sites having some 'consolation prize' that can be safely opened alongside 3-4 containers that yellowcard you. The consolation prize could perhaps be the materials the implants are made from (while the blueprints are safely locked away).

Thanks. You can probably tell I have never missioned.

Locking the blueprints away under yellow is a good, balanced suggestion.

My understanding of the drops from posts so far is that the implant set will be somewhat similar to this:

Blueprints:
- Alpha in highsec only
- Beta in high and low
- Gamma in low only
- Delta in low, non-sov null and sov null
- Epsilon in non-sov null and sov null
- Omega in WHs only

Plus there will be requirements for both standard materials some unique materials that only come from these sites.

Want a full set? You can't get it an any single type of space, and the most dangerous* space has the better implants. Highsec explorers will get heaps of the BPCs of the alphas and betas, the others will be quite a bit rarer.


* Sovereign nullsec is arguably safer than lowsec, but that's just the way it is.

Unless you were talking to someone else.. I don't give a damn about the ones that are in highsec. My beef is with how easy these sites will be to find for any old random passing through any system. I never said I cared about what being dropped in a certain area of space, I was talking about how the player so easily could find them, thus as always not leaving much for the people that scan around.