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Getting newbies out of their comfort zone

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#241 - 2013-10-20 15:27:21 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:



You sure are fighting mighty hard for something you otherwise seem to feel is so innocuous.


Conversely, you sure are eager to accuse other people of child abuse. I'd have to say, internet or not, that is a weighty charge. One that you should have thought better of prior to typing it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#242 - 2013-10-20 15:28:18 UTC
ooh i feel a lock coming i really do.

so, easier for people to change their play style then CCP to change the game. that's what we learned today isn't it orco?

forums.  serious business.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#243 - 2013-10-20 15:28:29 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Awesome Story


Great story, but leads to questions.

Why are you in such a crappy alliance ?

Why aren't you taking people who are actually willing to play
and create your own corp ?

Why aren't you removing that stupid idiot who calls himself Alliance Exec ?



1. I burned out on running my own alliance. The night that I closed up shop, a friend just happened to log into one of our various channels. We got to talking about things, and it turned out they get dec'd. Sure bro, I'll sign on for some pew Cool. First half of the war went alright ... but as with all industry corps, apparently "not mining" equals "not fun" and people start not logging in.

The original goal of bringing me in was to train up the guys to at least get comfortable with pew and losing ships (i.e. try making a corp in "the ways of old" with a bit of balance between pew and indy).

2 & 3. I had considered it ... but then I would get stuck back in running a damn alliance. Blink

I left that group after only a short while ... fell in again with a nullsec group who has been the best group of pilots I've ever flown with, but then RL stepped in and said "no nullsec" Cry

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#244 - 2013-10-20 15:28:42 UTC


I do find it ironic


That this thread


Has probably done more to scare new players who may be passing by

Into staying in whatever their "comfort-zone" is


Than in helping them come out of it

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#245 - 2013-10-20 15:34:34 UTC
High loss penalties

Open world pvp

No pve server

(donated money to star citizen and went back to farmville)
Josef Djugashvilis
#246 - 2013-10-20 15:43:13 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, but "limp-wristed" is not an offensive term. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation, if that is what you are imagining.


Go ahead and try to make me have great denial over my own personal experience with that phrase over a 48 year period of witnessing it's usage.

It's simply not going to happen.


If you are 48 in rl, you must have been a very socially aware baby SmileSmile

This is not a signature.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Two Vargurs one Hole
#247 - 2013-10-20 15:44:15 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
I'm not really sure what you're getting at here, but "limp-wristed" is not an offensive term. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation, if that is what you are imagining.


I believe it referred to weakness, originally intended to characterize someone who was too flimsy to hold a spear and a shield. Probably Greek in origin, given their love of foot soldiering.


It's a bit suspect I think.

http://youtu.be/ol5Dfs7jqFI
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#248 - 2013-10-20 15:48:06 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
etc, etcCry
Just realised that your story was from seven months ago.

And there's me ... sitting around ... thinking about joining a corp.
Not knowing what corp to join, but prefferably highsec.
Not willing to obey the bullshit "GIMME YOUR API OR BUST".
There must be people out there knowing me and willing to take me.

*sighs*

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#249 - 2013-10-20 15:51:11 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
etc, etcCry
Just realised that your story was from seven months ago.

And there's me ... sitting around ... thinking about joining a corp.
Not knowing what corp to join, but prefferably highsec.
Not willing to obey the bullshit "GIMME YOUR API OR BUST".
There must be people out there knowing me and willing to take me.

*sighs*



Well....

If you just want a ticker...


Of course, youd have to take my name

And the divorce from Quirko would have to come through lol

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#250 - 2013-10-20 15:57:51 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
etc, etcCry
Just realised that your story was from seven months ago.

And there's me ... sitting around ... thinking about joining a corp.
Not knowing what corp to join, but prefferably highsec.
Not willing to obey the bullshit "GIMME YOUR API OR BUST".
There must be people out there knowing me and willing to take me.

*sighs*



Well....

If you just want a ticker...


Of course, youd have to take my name

And the divorce from Quirko would have to come through lol
*lol* What xD

I can't change my name. :(

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#251 - 2013-10-20 16:05:58 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Iudicium Vastus wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
The ability to wardec a single player on a NPC corp would solve this problem.


That would be the beginning of the end for EVE


Themepark carebears propaganda, the reality is this, the more they cry, the more EvE Online grows.


http://eve-offline.net says you are completely wrong.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#252 - 2013-10-20 16:07:13 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Hey, if you misunderstand the meaning of a word, that's your problem, not everyone else's.

I could start taking unattributable offense to any word i want, doesn't mean others need accommodate my idiosyncrasies. Ironically, that kind of thinking is perfectly in-line with the running theme of people who are just too emotionally weak in real life to even play a gd video game without crying the entire time.

Talk about a running theme here.

Actually, you are wrong - it is *you* who misunderstand the meaning of the words:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/limp-wristed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effeminacy
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/limp-wristed

So yes, limp wristed is another way of implying a gay slur.


Hopefully, this will be enough to get this locked!

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#253 - 2013-10-20 16:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Yes, probably you are. A developer may provide the players with tools so they generate player content in hisec and not jsut in nullsec. And player driven PvE is generated by players so other players enjoy it as the creators are rewarded for creating the content.
It would help if you could provide an example of what you imagine
to be player created (driven?) PvE.

The way i understand you, there would be no need to create Player driven PvE,
because there's no reason to have players create "missions" that let's other players
go against NPCs.


Do you know how collectible card games work?

Picture players as deck holders, replace cards with NPC agents, their "attacks/defenses" with PvE missions and deliver those missions anonymously to players who can either succeed or fail the mission. Such misison allow the "deck holdr" to access new cards (i.e. new agents), "trigger" the agents so they can use single-shot special powers (which affect other players), et cetera.

Additionaly allow the "deck holder" to create the missions herself, using a limited supply of "mission points" and a price for every item/function added to the mission. Obviously check and balance it to hell and back to prevent abuse with too easy/too hard missions (albeit the average "deck holder" will need the mission to succeed so it won't make it impossible to the mission runner).

By the way, do you guess which company used to have one of such collectible cards games? CCP Hf in collaboration with White Wolf Inc.

It wouldn't even be new to them...

Roses are red / Violets are blue / I am an Alpha / And so it's you
Velicitia
XS Tech
#254 - 2013-10-20 16:13:22 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
etc, etcCry
Just realised that your story was from seven months ago.

And there's me ... sitting around ... thinking about joining a corp.
Not knowing what corp to join, but prefferably highsec.
Not willing to obey the bullshit "GIMME YOUR API OR BUST".
There must be people out there knowing me and willing to take me.

*sighs*


sure, what could possibly go wrong.

Just so you know, I don't fly blingy things ... or have anything in the corp hangars/wallet Blink ... I'm in the "looking for a new crew" thing myself.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#255 - 2013-10-20 16:17:13 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

*lol* What xD

I can't change my name. :(


Yeah I know

But Ma wont let anyone in the Clan without being family and all

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ma'Baker McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#256 - 2013-10-20 16:24:58 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

*lol* What xD

I can't change my name. :(


Yeah I know

But Ma wont let anyone in the Clan without being family and all



Dang tootin
We dont want none of them Hatfields or McCoy blood muddyin' up our gud fambly name consarn it
An' ah tole yoo that El Quirko wuz no gud, didn I
Guddammit 'Mona when y'all gunna listen to yer auld Ma?
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#257 - 2013-10-20 17:16:12 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
etc, etcCry
Just realised that your story was from seven months ago.

And there's me ... sitting around ... thinking about joining a corp.
Not knowing what corp to join, but prefferably highsec.
Not willing to obey the bullshit "GIMME YOUR API OR BUST".
There must be people out there knowing me and willing to take me.

*sighs*


sure, what could possibly go wrong.

Just so you know, I don't fly blingy things ... or have anything in the corp hangars/wallet Blink ... I'm in the "looking for a new crew" thing myself.
I don't AWOX and i don't scam.
I don't even seek tears.
I can't do it, because it makes me feel bad.
Whenever somebody whines or rages at me, i block him.

You would have to do a ton of crap to me to make me do something like this.

What are you in to ?

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Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#258 - 2013-10-20 17:16:53 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:

*lol* What xD

I can't change my name. :(


Yeah I know

But Ma wont let anyone in the Clan without being family and all
How about i just impregnate you and we use that as excuse ?

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#259 - 2013-10-20 17:17:29 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Do you know how collectible card games work?

Picture players as deck holders, replace cards with NPC agents, their "attacks/defenses" with PvE missions and deliver those missions anonymously to players who can either succeed or fail the mission. Such misison allow the "deck holdr" to access new cards (i.e. new agents), "trigger" the agents so they can use single-shot special powers (which affect other players), et cetera.

Additionaly allow the "deck holder" to create the missions herself, using a limited supply of "mission points" and a price for every item/function added to the mission. Obviously check and balance it to hell and back to prevent abuse with too easy/too hard missions (albeit the average "deck holder" will need the mission to succeed so it won't make it impossible to the mission runner).

By the way, do you guess which company used to have one of such collectible cards games? CCP Hf in collaboration with White Wolf Inc.

It wouldn't even be new to them...
I'm sorry, but i'm unable to comprehend.

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#260 - 2013-10-20 17:19:46 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
How about i just impregnate you and we use that as excuse ?



Im afraid Ma is a bit of a quickdraw with the ole coat-hangar if you know what I mean


We could elope though...

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann