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last I checked everything active stayed active when you dc, if you log back in and it was off that means you waited out any active timer (I think it was 2 mins).

looks like it still works that way, I just turned stuff on, and closed the client, came back and it was still on. looks like the cutoff is about 1min now with no active timer. at a little over 1min stuff was still on with a npc timer.

Reading all of this, I think e-warp should have an auto retry, and the "Seige, Cyno, Indistrial Core, and Bastion Modules finish their full and complete cycles before turning off and allowing an e-warp to warp you out (So long as you aren't pointed) Other modules should stay active untill e-warp is complete. Allowing an active tank to possibly keep the ship alive if ratting and a real DC does occur.

I think this could sole the issue without allowing abuse to take place.
I think this because having the module cycle completely will force the ship to stay put regardless of how many times you hit your router with a sledgehammer. Keeping modules on will provide the same active tank giving the pilot a chance to re-connect. If the pilot warps in time the Bastion module causes an aggression timer regardless so the ship will sit in space after e-warp. If the ship is pointed before it can e-warp, welp you shouldn't of gotten your ass war-dec'ed.


TL:DR
Have Cyno/Bastion/Seige/Triage/Industrial Core set to not-repeat once a DC is detected.
Ships E-warp attempts to warp almost continuously until the "afk" ship gets pointed, at that point a lucky PvP'er can enjoy dinner.
The deal with the bastion module deactivating would also allow PvP'ers to watch the animation and to know to point before the ship warps out. The lack of bastion also removes the bonus resists granted by entering Bastion mode.


Fun idea since I'm spitball'n

If you DC more than 5 times in a system where an enemy alliance member at war with you is present, you're no longer allowed to e-warp for a probationary period of 1 month and your ship will stay in space permanently unless docked or stored in an array.

Nope, not really, had 1 mail and 1 mail only.

you know nothing about capitals, eve or life for that matter. things are not always fair and even if it was unfair (which it isn't) if you look at the threat capitals face then you would come to the conclusion that they too melt very fast in a lot of DC situations.

but again its not relevant the only thing they have in common is the bastion/siege/triage module and that module has its ups and downs. if you talk about unfair then propose that all those modules immobilize you but because they might die at a DC there must be a exception on a rule. that sir is unfair.

stating that they always have to probe a ship down so its ok to safe ewarp is unfair, because that is not by definition the case and that is a fact. if i am in a anomaly i can be found by warping to anomalies pretty quick when you combine dscan if it e-warps that possibility isn't there.

you could say i want the ship to change or the bonuses to change so they have better chance at surviving a DC without making them overpowered. but stating that this ship type with a immobilize module should be excluded in the big disadvantage while keeping the advantages is a bunch of BS.

if you don't like it fine don't fly it, or fly the ship without bastion module

i realy hope you have an better attitude in real life...

I don't necessarily disagree with this, Risk is risk, if you can't afford to lose it then you best not use it.

But, Bastion is different than most capital modules, the cycle time is way shorter, and it provides a decent amount of resists when activated, the Real issue here is that the hull is pretty damn weak when the module does turn off, and when it does actually turn off, e-warp isn't going to attempt to do jack squat because it already failed to warp.

Forget all the crap about PvP for just a sec, a "perfect" scenario would be a pilot in a newb-corp (no wardec's) in high-sec, not being chased by anyone in a completely empty system. He's ratting in bastion, suddenly "Pilots ISP" drops the ball and internet dies for his entire neighborhood. The Pilot did everything by the book, was willing to risk isk for isk. Not every damn thing is always the pilots fault, simply having e-warp retry after the cycle of bastion finishes would be enough for me.


Just get e-warp to retry occasionally for non-pvp scenarios (Mostly meaning you have a yellow aggression timer)


Now for PvP... TL:DR Welp back to mining or a T1 BS.

Also, lets stop comparing Capital Ships to Battleships. The module is fundamentally different in a few ways (does have some similarities for repair boosting) but otherwise, Capital EHP and BS EHP will always be different.

manually cycle your bastion module and get better internet you gigantic choob

Of course it doesn't deactivate when you DC. That would mean you could just alt-f4 every time you got into ****.

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that is the point of a siege module, like triage or siege it self, bastion is no different, if you are running for say wormhole sites in your carrier has a triage pilot, and you get DC you die. If you run PvP and a single dread is on grid you die.

Carriers have small tanks for the amount of DPS they can tank, get DC at 15K DPS and you die, its that simple, your ship will stay stuck in space with all its reps off.

Same for the Bastion, your ship will be stuck in space for 60 seconds, with reps off, until the 60 seconds then your ship warps off, like cyno ships.

Its_That_Simple

Soo, don't use Marauder to avoid the issue?
Cause the only way you're flying a Marauder anymore is with bastion...




Oh, so they shouldn't do what every other sub-cap in the game does?
I guess it is as intended.





Here's the problem...
If you're not running an active tank when you DC, you will die...

If you're running the tank, and it's not cap stable(like pretty much all pve AND pvp fits)
then you'll likely cap out, expecially if using an XL booster or ASB/AAR.

Marauders have cap issues as they are, especially the Golem, which Oddly enough doesn't use cap for weapons...


If you're in pvp and then enemy doesn't have you scrammed/disrupted, you will drop bastion and warp..
If you're in pve, you'll drop bastion and warp just like every other sub-cap... If you're disrupted by NPCs, you'll die just like every other sub-cap, cause you don't MJD when you DC...


Basically, if you drop bastion when you DC as I've suggested, you'll have the exact same outcome as every other sub-cap in the same situation you are in at that moment....

So I say, how does this effect anything?
What's the problem?

Same outcome, and they're the slowest sub-cap ship with their nerfed/increased mass... So you have even longer to catch them before they e-warp....


If you don't have a Marauder warp-scrammed while they're bastioned in pvp anyway, then you're the idiot cause he can simply drop bastion and MJD..
It's too easy to get under their guns....

I say, if a Marauder DC's, drops bastion mid cycle and gets away from you, then you're the idiot for not locking him down....

While this thread is amusing to read, the whole point of the OP is to say that DOESN'T happen and it SHOULD.