EVE General Discussion

That would be the beginning of the end for EVE

I got a newbie out of his comfort zone once.


















He threatened to petition me with sexual harrasment...

Why does it bother you? You fail at finding enough fights? Annoyed you can't grief newbies who don't want to fight you? Then be a man and go to low sec or null. Plenty of fights to be had there.

I'm in an NPC corp. Does that make me a themepark carebear? And actually, I will stick with Eve bro

Sandbox means everything, which means also getting out of wardec (hence the ability to drop corps) or doing hisec pve activities.. You seem to want a pvp-only scenario, which ya know, isn't sandbox. Your quaint suggestion is just forced victimization of freely picked targets with no way out.

Rather brash when many of these 'leet' peeveepee'ers suggest things like some sort of killright or inability to drop corp during war, but the individual target idea is just truly sick in the worse way. How many times does it need to be repeated on the forums that wardecs are against corporations (whole entities) and NOT the members (the individual players). And how would you expect a literally singled out target to war with an entire entity like a pvp alliance bearing down on them?

This is the sandbox, accept that there are those you can't freely victimize, least without suicide gank, awox, or the like. You claim to like the sandbox? then act like it and stop acting like it's strictly a boxing ring instead. HTFU

If you want to play your pvp-only-game scenario where you can pick and kill willy nilly anybody in sight without escape or other options, might I suggest Call of Duty.

No, that's not what sandbox mmo-rpg's are about. You can try to play the way you want, but you are not entitled to it like in kindergarten themepark mmo-rpg's.

The sandbox is about player interaction, interaction that affects how other players play and interact with both the game and other players. What you do not get to do in the sandbox is decide who you will not interact with. You can choose to interact with player A, even if player A would rather not interact with you. They have little say in the matter. They can make an effort to avoid you, but that in itself is an act of interaction.You have forced them to recognize you, take heed of you. This is what makes the butterfly effect possible in EvE Online.

To sum it up, EvE Online it's the last of it's kind, an old school sandbox mmo-rpg game, that's the secret of it's longevity and that's why EvE Online will still be played 10 years from now.

I wasn't aware we were in the presence of the grand architect of EVE Online and all knowing originator of the game's intent. Could you tell us why then you put in PVE activities at all rather than all-pvp-everywhere-all-the-time? Or why hisec even exists if this was supposed to be only a violent and bloody battleground. I do believe those sorts of games exist already, usually in the form of FPSs I hear.

There is no such thing as "PvE" in this game, and shootings ships is not the "PvP" part of the game. EvE is not split in half like the simplistic kindergarten themepark mmo-rpg games you play.

After the login, every game system involves some form of competitive interaction. For example, despite what themeparkers believe, missions and Incursions are a sandbox feature, the players doing it affect the economy and other players can invade the "dungeon" to steal loot, ninja salvage or even gank.

NEW EDEN NEWBIE CULL FALLS SHORT OF TARGET
The number of new pilots killed by marksmen has fallen short of its target

The number of Newbies and pilots with a sense of entitlement shot during a six-week cull in New Eden has fallen short of its target, Environment Secretary Owen Paterson has told MPs.

Defra said 708 Noobs had been killed, 942 fewer than the target of 1,650.

Nigel Gibbens, chief veterinary officer, advised it should be extended. This could be for eight weeks.

Pro-entitlement campaigners have called the scheme a "massive failure" and said they would continue their protest .

'Safe and humane'
Mr Gibbens said extending the cull would achieve the "earliest and greatest possible impact" on the concept of entitlement in New Eden.

Mr Paterson told The Scope the cull figures were "not bad news" but admitted that those carrying out the killings had "got off to a slower start" than had been expected.

"We must remember that these are pilots," he said.

"This has not been done before and we are learning, clearly, in each area. This isn't a sudden six-week period. These pilots are intended to go on for years.

"Up to to the end of July, a further 20,000 perfectly healthy cattle have been hauled off to slaughter at horrendous expense to the taxpayer because we've lost control of the sense of Entitlement amongst the New Pilot population."

Mr Paterson said 305,000 cattle had been "lost" over the past 10 years and it was "not acceptable" to allow the disease to go on.

Last week Mr Paterson said the government was exploring the possibility of gassing Noobs to cull carriers of entitled thinking.

Stop the Noob Cull spokesman Jay Tiernan said the cull had been a "massive failure".

"It's disgraceful," he said. "It clearly isn't safe, effective or humane.

"It is time for someone to bite the bullet and admit it's been a failure."

Mr Tiernan said protests against the culls would continue.

amazing, they actually want their gank targets to unsub.

it might help these players progress though, they might even find a low/high gate to camp for 3 years.

Newbies out of their comfort zone ????

It's been 4 years, but in the first 6 months of newbie play, I lost more ships than I've lost total in the 3 1/2 years since.

What comfort zone are we talking about exactly ???