EVE General Discussion

Posting in a stealth nerf hi sec thread.

Hmm, when the npc corp tax was first imposed, I left the npc corp and made my own crop.

Raise taxes higher and more will leave the npc corps, but most likely they wont be going low,null,wh to provide easy lol kill mails.

Does not matter how badly high sec gets nerfed, you wont force many into taking more risk, most likely you will force the majority of high sec to quit the game all together.

Oh I wasn't surprised at all that people weren't reading the entire post.



I also wasn't surprised at people in GD jumping to unsubstantiated conclusions about my motives based on appearances. It wasn't just per se, it was nothing at all. But again, we're back to something this thread isn't about, and that's getting new players to fight. Since when does encouraging new players to experience more of the game automatically equate to making them easy targets? My interest is quite specifically in making them more challenging targets by virtue of learning from more experienced players and groups of players, and shedding the illusion of safety in EVE. They're still easy targets in an NPC corp, which brings me to....



Oh you're absolutely right. They could have 'graduated' long ago. Additionally, those players are a very good example of why any safety perceived by being in an NPC corp is fleeting at best.

Yep, a 1man corp, and if you get wardec, just leave and create a new one.

First of all, Eve is a sandbox, its a game for Pvp, pve, roleplaying, its not just one of those things, its all of them, and we all share Eve since its single shard... I am still in CAS, for many reasons, first of all i enjoy the comunity, CAS is basically run like a loose corporation, you have nullroams, people will set up tournamnets, organice mining operations, bascially anything Eveish

But back to your dilemma, how to make new people or people in starter corps try, I am as i said in CAS couse of the comunity and couse i enjoy helping new players, i am in no way a veteran, or have no where near the skill that some have or some of the vets in CAS, but a few little things, tips stuff i got helped with, i can help with, and one of those questions that come up, time and time again by new players is, "If i leave CAS, can i come back", and the sad answear is NO, once you leave there is no going back, and many just dont want to risk what they have, wich works, for a unknown, and then might be burned, Eve can be a very lonely and cold place, so IF people could go back to their starter corps if things dont turn out well, i personally think people would test more real corps, wich would be a good thing, i might be in CAS, or promote it,but being so i still advocate players to test all aspects of Eve and not get stuck !, but in the end, it is a sandbox, and players shouldent be forced, its their choise !

While I firmly believe more people should see Eve as a multiplayer game, I do not agree that players should be forced into an NPC corp. People should be able to pay their tax directly to the empire of their choosing (or where they are located) and be able to have zero corp chat. Taxes could be higher for this choice. Of course a player could make her own corp, but that's not the point. I would support wardec mechanics against individuals choosing this option.

Paraphrasing some American Idol, "methink the OP protests too much".

I've read the OP several times and yet i only come with a way to interpretate it.

Paragraphs 1, 2 and 3: "we discussed ways to encourage leaving NPC corps by either kicking them out or messing with them more than now"

Issue: WHY should they leave NPC corps? WHY does it matter you?

Paragraph 4: "we didn't liked our ideas because they don't adress other issues like finding the right corps, elitism, paranoia and people who want to play an MMO solo"

Issue: admiteddly this last line makes me go ballistic. Have a literal quotation of it:

"they don't directly address the "I'm going to play an MMO solo" attitude that many such players that remain in NPC corps are often afflicted by."

Look at him, the Man Who Knows How To Play A MMO, and in his endless benevolence, he asks for suggestions so nobody does different than him. He himself has detemined that "I'm going to play an MMO solo" is an issue and he wants a solution. And we, poor wretches who actually want to play solo a MMO, don't get him and actually mistake him for every last troll, griefer and CCP developer who's tried to mess our way of playing because he knew better how should we spend our money and play the sandbox.

And now that I've read your post (three times) and you know my issues with it, will you answer?

What makes you think that people will pay for the privilege of being dragged forcibly outside of their comfort zone?

I play solo and I like it. I've been to three player run corporations and collected three disastrous experiences which almsot amde me quit the game (was wardecced for a month, almost was stolen in nullsec, and was kicked because of poor time & SP integration). Paraphrasing some Nobel Prize of Literature, "he only trusted his d*ck, because it was the only one who would never f*ck his ass".

And certainly if a newbie wants to play solo, I would rather encourage him to withstand the massive pressure he will suffer, set up a corp to avoid taxes, keep a low profile and then ask CCP to follow him to his gameplay style rather than keep dragging him outside of his comfort zone.

And by the way, the same applies not just to soloers, but also to hiseccers, casuals, PvErs and carebears. Everyone who's got an issue with "not playing EVE right".

Lol

In the two years I've lived in null the only times I've alarm clocked was because I wanted to.

I have NEVER been told to "be on an op or else" not once.

The "politics" are quite easy to avoid, diplos do politics I'm perfectly happy being a gun, point me at someone to shoot, that is how much I worry about politics.

If I'm clocking at all is for a fight I've put significant energy into.

CJ-6 or 6VDT .....nothing less.

The ability to wardec a single player on a NPC corp would solve this problem.