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this exactly, most of the low sec moon mining pos's arent owned by any large null sec alliance. yes the some of the most profitable ones are but the majority are the small corps who just dont have the man power to constantly be checking pos's. Not to mention the small corps dont have anyone on the batphone to call for help if someone does decide to take thier pos, they must defend it themselves. Now not only do we have to worry about traveling throu hostile territory to get to/from our pos and high but we also have to do regular patrols to prevent someone from stealing from us? pos's are broken enough as is, why the **** are you breaking them even more?

Conquerable poco's: "just wardeck them and shoot it for hours hurdurrr"
Siphon units: "waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"

PoS syphons, Just one more iteration emanating from the desiccated thought process of an individual that honestly believes that everyone plays EVE for the sole purpose of blowing up someone else;s S*** while utterly missing the point of EVE entirely, suggest you take a break from your play station FPS, Son and take long hard look at what you have spawned into the game and the short and long term ramifications of that action both in game and out.

API's that lie, that's a good one, virtually kills off all trust in that aspect.

Guns that will not shoot attacking structures, Magnificent.

Only needs two of them to shut down a PoS process, Utterly pointless.

If you really do want to make a change to the economic dynamics of EVE, Nerf Empire Markets and force players to use Contracts and Contacts to get what they need, you want player interaction, do that, then watch the game expand into the utter chaos you seem to crave so desperately.

Fry has some thoughts for you.

Others in this thread have already explained to your fellow low sloping foreheads why POS's aren't AFK income, but I doubt you understood it. Just like I doubt you'll understand what will happen when goons unleash this on everyone else. Anyway, as a member of the elite N3 coalition, why don't you form a fleet and conquer those valuable streams of income then?

Or is it too far below your elite self to engage in a structure bash? Reffed POS earns no income right now, no need for little sythons.

One of the things that makes EVE more special than other MMOs is the ability to permeate our time offline. How many don't have EVEmon/Aura/other tools set up to check evemails, notifications, skill queue notifications, etcetera? Remove that link to offline and EVE is worse off.

Marlona: Using the same logic as in your post there should be no notification about a POS being attacked, since you should really guard your POSs. And there should be no visible timer on the POS for reinforced mode since the attacker....you guessed it, should really stick around and check on when it exits reinforced mode. Personally I think that would be boring and I think that having the actions of the siphon hidden by the API would be boring.

The solution to the no-API, lying API or no-notificat is to have a character permanently logged on in a POS with overview only showing siphons. Once a siphon is visible on the character's screen, just message the owning player/corp/alliance. Eve is full of enthusiastic players able to sit seemingly all day doing absolutely nothing. Some players even have many such character running on their PC.

Unlike ratting or mining, this sort of activity involves the character doing absolutely nothing itself. I envisage these appearing in almost every system with a pos or reaction farm valuable enough to be worth alerting. Moon output prices are going to rise dramatically, and the cost of monitor the POS will be included in that price.

This would be a good time to invest in PLEX.

You are assuming that griefing will include trying to harvest the goo rather than just ejecting it and trashing it using mainly afk cloaky bombers. There won't be fights .. just griefing to make the pos fuel costs more expensive than the successful ore harvest.

First it should be said that I feel sorry for the Dev that has had to read this far into this abortion of a thread. But please be able to take a lot of these posts with a grain of salt, since a lot of people have ulterior motives.

Now, these siphons are definitely going to shake up moon mining incomes, which is the desired goal. They will also give everyone else a way to be a thorn in the side of larger absentee moon owners.

For 0.0 systems, what is stopping entities from siphoning their own pos'es, but keeping them perma bubbled with cans spammed around it to decloak anyone attempting to access the contents? Surely if the thief is de-cloaked long enough s/he will be pointed by the pos and then firmly dealt with.

All in all I like this idea, and it will definitely shake up the game like it is intended. Keep up the good work.

It would be funny if NPCs in missions could randomly get a double damage boost, but your shield/armor meters would lie about the damage you're taking and only show loss due to regular DPS. See why data sources lying to us is bad?