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There are too any sob stories in this thread for my taste. I though zero sec dwellers were supposed to be more "Chuck Norris"-like.

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Sorry, that was uncalled for.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

That's a terrible idea!

A better one I've seen floating around is to disable the local window and remove yourself from local while cloaked. It could probably use a few tweaks, but it's much better than putting timers on cloaks. Bahahahahahaha, just thinking about timed cloaks makes me giddy with laughter. Sounds like something a nullbear would say.

Whatever the solution may be.

I have pointed out a problem which certainly annoys a lot of players, does not have any countermeasure and is giving the ability to the cloaker to play the game while he is actually afk. This is the same as botting - playing the game and having an effect on you/your surroundings while you are afk.

The data I have in front of me suggest that - excluding PLEX - inflation has been relatively stable since mid 2008. We generally see increased volatility around expansions, but our CPI today is about the same as it was circa Q2 2008. We do need to do more work to balance out our ISK flows, but we also need people to be playing our game, and specifically we need people to be running anomalies if we want nullsec to be a healthy area of the game.



The problem with this sort of approach is that it pushes people away from settling down and towards a more hunter-gatherer lifestyle, which isn't currently the direction we want nullsec to be generally moving in.



Yup, that's taken as read, don't worry :)



Drone Horde was a separate issue - those sites were breaking completely if you one-shotted the bunkers. It was also never intended that you could speed up the completion rate by spawning all the NPCs at once, so that was corrected as part of the bugfix. This site should now be more in line with other comparable anomalies and with the original design intent.

We've not done significant work on our overall vision for nullsec since the blogs published over the summer, because we've been working on other things. When we refocus on nullsec again you'll be hearing more about this sort of thing, but right now we're not saying a lot because we don't have a lot of additional stuff to say.



Forsaken Rally Point comes in about 5% worse than Forlorn Hub in the new system, and Hidden Rally Point and one of the Hub sites are probably down 10%. (Forlorn Hub is now on par with the two Haven sites, for reference.)



Went home, played Skyrim :)

Please don't turn this into an afk-cloaker thread kthx

You mean you went home and... enjoyed yourself!?



Thanks for taking the time to reply again, Greyscale. There remains one major sticking point in regards to income in highsec vs lowsec and nullsec. This may be beyond the scope of what you want to discuss with this blog, but will it be addressed in the near future? This change isn't worth quite as much, in and of itself, without serious re-evaluation of other, safer means of income.

I wonder whether Greyscale and other relevant people agree in principle with the following statement:

"Players should earn their ISK at the same place they do pvp; they should really live in that place and not finance their real char with an alt that makes the money for him, because only if players spend most of their time outside of hisec they are vulnerable, which generates conflict. If players only enter 0.0 for pvp then pvp only happens for the sake of having pvp."

If CCP agrees with this in principle, then the only way to achieve this is making all acitivities available in hisec – and I mean every single one with no exceptions – significantly worse paying than what you can do in low/null. Only then will people actually live in low/null and not just go there for roams.

If I can make 100m ISK/hour in 0.0 and 150 in hisec, I will do my PvE in hisec. If I make 160 in null and 150 in hisec, most will still do it in hisec. But if I can make 150 in null and only 50 in hisec, then many people will move to null. Hisec will become the domain of industry, noobs and hardcore-carebears who fear risk so much they'll never leave hisec no matter what.

Now the big problem: Nerfing hisec will cause a major uproar because most people live in hisec. Half of them will ragequit and CCP and EVE would die.

Possible solution: Do the nerf stealthily. Don't reduce hisec income, but increase inflation massively. At the same time, buff null income significantly. That way hisec grinders will initially not feel a nerf; they still get the same ISK in, numbers-wise. Only their ISK will have less value over time. If you do this over a period of one year or so, hisec will be nerfed compared to null, but there will be no single event that hurts people. The pain is spread over time. Instead of feeling completely shafted from one day to the other, hisec dwellers realize over time that moving to nullsec would really be worth it for them.

one of the ideas from the old nerf topic was:

keep the anom spawns the same and change the value of the rats depending on the sec lvl of that system.

so each system at upgrade 5 would get
2 sanctums
2 havens
2 ports
etc etc

but the values of the rats would be linked to the sec so that in a 0.0 /-0.2 band would be say 1mil bs's -0.2/-0.45 band would be 1.2mil bs's etc etc up to the -1.0's having 1.8mil bs's

that way you keep the worth of each system while making the true sec matter.

having worthless systems is well worthless.
0.0 is ment to be populated but people making isk to fund pvp(basicly how it was before the changes), the changes listed in this blog arnt enough to revert yourfuck up from the last nerf imo.