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YES YOU CAN HAVE MY STUFF / DNSBLACK LOOKING FOR GTC SELLER

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Dani Lizardov
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#161 - 2013-10-18 17:41:45 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
Greetings,

Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter.


You are going to investigate is reselling legal ?

Can by any chance, wile you are at it, please ask Nikon can i sell my old DSLR too?
Druthlen
The Carlisle Group
#162 - 2013-10-18 17:47:39 UTC
This wraps up why somergate is so damning to CCP and eve. They dont know it yet. They think they got away with it. But they didnt. They will pay for this and if they dont fix it they will loose big time.
Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#163 - 2013-10-18 17:49:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6638
loose. BIG time

somebody gonna get a hurt real bad

(calm down. it's a russell peters reference.)

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#164 - 2013-10-18 17:56:57 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
Greetings,

Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter.

How do I become an authorized reseller? You know, so I can run a completely legitimate GTC reselling operation that happens to also award lottery tickets for fantastic isk prizes.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Jotaro Haake
Perkone
Caldari State
#165 - 2013-10-18 17:58:53 UTC
Love to be a fly on the wall at CCP HQ about now-ish.

Perhaps also Somer HQ - they will be sweating on this.

Saw the OP derping around a few days ago in local, didn't get the chance to wave. Shame I won't get the chance now, given he is bailing out. Even if he's on an elaborate troll mission, it's a convincing one.

Fly safe wherever you go bro. Ballsy way to go o7
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#166 - 2013-10-18 18:07:07 UTC
Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#167 - 2013-10-18 18:13:38 UTC
Posting in the most legendary of emergence threads!


HOLD EVERYONE TO THE SAME STANDARD THAT YOU DO SOMERBLINK

[b]THE KING OF EVE RADIO

If EVE is real, does that mean all of us are RMTrs?[/b]

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#168 - 2013-10-18 18:19:14 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.

Quote:
please contact one of our authorized wholesalers

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#169 - 2013-10-18 18:22:48 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.

Quote:
please contact one of our authorized wholesalers

Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Powers Sa
#170 - 2013-10-18 18:30:31 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.

Quote:
please contact one of our authorized wholesalers

Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition.

Imagine all the dudes with titans doing a sanctioned cashout.

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Remeber: Gambling addiction is no laughing matter unless you've lost a vast space fortune on the internet.

Jennimar
Raytheon Intergalactic Research
Fall From Grace.
#171 - 2013-10-18 18:34:10 UTC
Hmmmmm......

I'm pretty sure there are meeting occurring with multiple department heads trying out how to spin this on an epic scale. "How do we tell our paying customers, to do as we say.....AND NOT AS WE DO!"

CCP has forgotten that one must---LEAD BY EXAMPLE!

If you want us to overlook your indescretions you must do the same for us...If you want us to be honorable folk who have integrity in all dealings within the Eve Universe....then do the same


Or have you....the creators of Eve Online forgotten that YOU taught US that this was a cold and cruel place.....and that anything and everything is supposed to be ok.......after all .....aren't we supposed to be immortal demigods?
Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#172 - 2013-10-18 18:34:48 UTC
while everyone is cheering for OP, has anyone realized this is one step closer to CCP selling items directly for money? it would be an extension of OP's logic

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2013-10-18 18:36:28 UTC
This has to be the best SOMER reaction thread to date. Too bad I had to learn about it from Ripard's blog of all places. Why lock threads when you can send them to in-game events to die.

Good luck DNSBlack you magnificent bastard wherever you may be.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#174 - 2013-10-18 18:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6638
Powers Sa wrote:

Imagine all the dudes with titans doing a sanctioned cashout.

if that was inevitable, CCP would print Titans and sell them at a better price than you

you have 1 Gallente titan in the redeeming system

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Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#175 - 2013-10-18 18:42:46 UTC
Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH.
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#176 - 2013-10-18 18:49:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Money Makin Mitch
Weaselior wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.

Quote:
please contact one of our authorized wholesalers

Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition.

indeed. a wholesaler sells to resellers, otherwise, they wouldn't be wholesalers, but retail outlets Pirate
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#177 - 2013-10-18 18:51:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Money Makin Mitch
Rain6638 wrote:
while everyone is cheering for OP, has anyone realized this is one step closer to CCP selling items directly for money? it would be an extension of OP's logic

yes, we realize that. if they would just outright say that's they are going to do or allow others to do, it will make it a whole lot easier to either unsub my accounts or create my own site/service.
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#178 - 2013-10-18 18:54:48 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH.

Given SOMER's example, it appears CCP disagrees!

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Kazanir
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#179 - 2013-10-18 18:54:55 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH.


That's exactly why CCP has been allowing Somer to do it for nearly half a decade, I suppose.
Xaerael Endiel
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#180 - 2013-10-18 19:06:10 UTC
So, while this is being clarified, is CCP going to stop all ETC ISK laundering operations?