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so make it tired like i suggested... low end moons have a larger waste amount high end lower.

make it so trial accounts cannot drop shiphon units

and add a skill that allows an extra deployable item per level. 1 per level.

remember ccp said a small group should be able to distrupt another group... that does not mean shut them down completely... if you want to do that get organized.

Why is this a deployable not a highslot module that sends a notification?

There is no limit on the number of POS a character can put up - Why shouldn't a motivated and *active* player be able to place as many of these as he likes?

Yes R32 and R64 moon material prices will likely spike - but won't that just mean more people will ACTIVELY protect their POS incomes?

I'll leave the maths to someone else, but people predicting doom scenarios of every moon being syphoned by griefers are ridiculous - it is a cost vs reward scenario as with most of Eve.

Once people realise the reward for dropping 10-20 syphons randomly is the loss equivalence of a battleship for maybe a few mil of stolen materials they can scoop and perhaps a few hours of sabotaged production for *active* POS owners, the majority will realise it is not cost effective.

It is more likely to be used as a targeted attack on perceived passive players or by locals attacking POS the local folks have some beef with. This targeted sabotage is a nice mechanic for emergent gameplay - I mean has anyone considered that a lot of alliance syphoning will probably be done by alts of their own members?

It will make some fun reading all those disgruntled POS inspectors going rogue while their alt syphons their alliance income. lol

Waste factor of 20% is fine.

But yeah, you should limit the number of siphons that can be anchored on a POS.

edit: Just realized CCP were talking of a limit per character, which is a terrible idea...

It's about making it harder to detect it while you aren't logged in the game. Want to secure your POS? Go, and actually play EVE Online.

An exploit that cost 3 billions ISK.

indeed from a RP perspective the unit takes goo from the pos without the pos knowing it... so how would said pos relay that data that then gets sent out to the api system?

if the pos does not know its being robbed how is it supposed to let you know...

Supply and demand.

Once the supply of low ends gets syphoned and drops by perhaps 20%, the price of those low ends will rise, just guessing by perhaps 20% - this means they will now more than cover the fuel costs and motivation for actively mining and protecting their POS will increase.

It is almost as if things in this game balance themselves.

I hope CCP will create a mobile structure which will reduce ISK income in all solar system by 50%.
5-7mill EXP, 25mill ISK and low signature.
Alliance to capture only the territory they could defend.
sweet dreams about the collapse of the great western sphere of prosperity.

a) I'd say that's a fair trade, however let me make a slight tweak as a suggestion to that what about making it though the more siphons that are anchored the more waste, and that waste affects all siphons equally. 1st siphon, 10% waste, 2nd 20%, 3rd 40% etc. so if you want to grief the griefer find some siphon he's anchored, add one of your own and reduce his income by increasing the waste.

b) I suspect it would have to be closer to the 10-20 range to make it worth it. I dont mind the idea of making it skill based and giving players and basic and advanced skill to make it a total of 20 or split the difference, give them a base of 5 and add a skill and an advanced skill to take it to 15?