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Terrible idea. The waste factor is a good way to grief an AFK Empire POS owner in deep space. Even if you can't come and empty the Siphon safely, you're still able to potentially destabilize the AFK Empire POS owners income just by wastage alone.

20% is a good mark to have it at. 25% would be even better.

a) is neither here nor there, wastage factors only effect those who empty the siphon, nominally the deployer but arguably anyone, including the POS owner, i note few have complained about it in this thread, ergo, no one really cares.

b) a marginal improvement, it won't stop an army of alts deploying them.

Your answer fails to address issues of balance.

The modules should be bigger, over 200m3, they should not fit in an interceptor. In their current form they are near risk free for the griefers who can load several of them up in a nulli interceptor and blast past defensive gate camps with near impunity.

Cost, 10m isk is too low and will merely encourage the Goons to spam them across regions of space, using the above nulli interceptors.

API false reporting, this idea is pants on head and set on fire level ******** especially with all the talk about the new Crest API, why go make a game mechanic to **** it up? Talk about the left hand not talking to the right hand.

Meanwhile, are any Devs working on improvements to POS mechanics and interface?

The tears from the small groupers just means CCP is on the right track.




You know, to borrow the logic of those same small groupers from earlier in the thread.

What the siphon in my eyes does is just make t2 production harder and more expensive with the waste %. The currently run monopoly will get griefed leading to less moongoo which in turn increases prices of all t2 production. The whole monopoly being run by a select few... Newer players will suffer the consequences the hardest.

The whole monopoly and price increase scenario doesnt look good. So tell me again, why is there no moongoo in highsec? Dont give me that bittervet hurpadurp carebear highsec **** please. Everyone wishing ot take part in t2 production should have a way of doing so, not having to fully rely on null alliances for either production or rentals. Spreading out minerals for all sec status zones would mean: less reliance on nullsec production. Prices would settle down instead of skyrocket. R64 could be near to non existent in highsec, still giving null some edge over high. PI already exists in all areas and poco changes are coming to highsec, so why not bring moon mining to highsec as well?

Sorry but goons are the single largest holder of high end moons. This is 100% about them protecting their income.

Notice they were similarly outraged at the nerfing of 0.0 anoms a couple of years ago.

Notice they were similarly outraged at the moongoo redistribution

Notice they were similarly outraged at the introduction of alchemy

Notice a theme? They oppose anything that hurts their position and cite legit game design concerns regardless. Half the time they are right, but this is as much by blind luck as anything else.

So what? If they do that they deserve the rewards.

The original Eve goons (that cared about lulz and tears) would have embraced this idea with open arms. The current, greedy bloated carebear fallacy that calls itself goonswarm being opposed to it just shows how completely ideologically bankrupt they've become.

Not a problem for small griefers without pos, that's the intention of this expansion, giving small groups of players tools to harm the powerful.

Yes because once conquered the victors should be able to put their feet up, smoke cigars, drink brandy and laugh at the puny lower class people and worker slaves forced to actually work for an income in Eve.

Power to the proletariat!

'original eve goons'

and

'bankrupt'

BINGO!