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Open Letter to James 315 and the New Order of Highsec and those tired of thier actions

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Teinyhr
Ourumur
#41 - 2013-10-18 10:16:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
Aldeskwatso wrote:
Honestly dude, I don't understand afk miners at all. You pay for a game, and then you start hording in ores to increase profitsﾅ You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with isk, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did is undock, warp to, target and press F1, F2 and F3. Worst case, you use a bot, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.


Honestly I don't understand "elite pvp" at all. You pay for a game, then you start attacking other players to increase profits? You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with ISK, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did was undock, warp to some hapless target that can't defend itself locked down by a t1 frigate, target, F1. Worst case, you use a neutral RR alt, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.


TL;DR: If that's how someone wants to play their game, let them. Who are you to say how they should play it?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#42 - 2013-10-18 10:19:20 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Aldeskwatso wrote:
Honestly dude, I don't understand afk miners at all. You pay for a game, and then you start hording in ores to increase profitsﾅ You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with isk, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did is undock, warp to, target and press F1, F2 and F3. Worst case, you use a bot, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.


Honestly I don't understand "elite pvp" at all. You pay for a game, then you start attacking other players to increase profits? You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with ISK, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did was undock, warp to some hapless target that can't defend itself locked down by a t1 frigate, target, F1. Worst case, you use a neutral RR alt, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.


TL;DR: If that's how someone wants to play their game, let them. Who are you to say how they should play it?



Hypocrit.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#43 - 2013-10-18 10:23:24 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:

Hypocrit.


You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Also fix your sarcasm detector while you're at it.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#44 - 2013-10-18 10:29:03 UTC
Teinyhr wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:

Hypocrit.


You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Also fix your sarcasm detector while you're at it.



It works fine


If you happen to take umbridge at being called one, it is hardly my problem


"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#45 - 2013-10-18 10:52:21 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
This thread gave me a raging hard on.



That's kinda odd actually. I'd see a doctor about that.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#46 - 2013-10-18 10:56:32 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
posting in 100001th thread about NO


Look at all the content James 315 has generated, both directly and indirectly. They should give him an unique ship or something!



But was it good content ? Is there anything about bumping uglies ships that folks that play other games find worthy..........or newsworthy even ?

Nope.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Nanatoa
#47 - 2013-10-18 11:07:03 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Nanatoa wrote:
Look at all the content James 315 has generated, both directly and indirectly. They should give him an unique ship or something!
But was it good content ? Is there anything about bumping uglies ships that folks that play other games find worthy..........or newsworthy even ?Nope.

I don't think that's a criteria, because what do folks that play other games find worthy in someone enabling gambling addiction, making ingame and real life profits in the process? At least James 315 runs Minerbumping as a non-profit, spending all cash coming in on the Minerbumping community.

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2013-10-18 11:09:32 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Well..

Hello there future war target.


After reading the OP my only question was on which page this would be.
It amazes me after all this time that people think the new order is interested in or needs the 10 mill isk mining permits.
They are at about 138 billion isk in share purchases. They use all this isk to fund suicide catalysts. They genuinely care about eve and want people to stop playing afk or via bots and to actually engage in the MMO and interact with people around them. They are good people and very friendly to code complaint miners.
The only way being code compliant could possibly harm you is if you really want to play afk. If u actually want to play eve then it will only help you and make moves to low or null easier when u decide to take a visit.
OP and others in this thread feel they are fighting some sort of evil whereas in fact they are fighting a form of tough love that has turned many bored miners into happy eve players.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#49 - 2013-10-18 11:10:51 UTC
Silvetica Dian wrote:


After reading the OP my only question was on which page this would be.
It amazes me after all this time that people think the new order is interested in or needs the 10 mill isk mining permits.
They are at about 138 billion isk in share purchases. They use all this isk to fund suicide catalysts. They genuinely care about eve and want people to stop playing afk or via bots and to actually engage in the MMO and interact with people around them. They are good people and very friendly to code complaint miners.
The only way being code compliant could possibly harm you is if you really want to play afk. If u actually want to play eve then it will only help you and make moves to low or null easier when u decide to take a visit.
OP and others in this thread feel they are fighting some sort of evil whereas in fact they are fighting a form of tough love that has turned many bored miners into happy eve players.



This

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Charles Wu-Wong
Anti-Nub Incorporated
Centipede Caliphate.
#50 - 2013-10-18 11:12:43 UTC
Pffff. The incoherent rambling in this thread is ridiculous.

Permit tank best tank.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-10-18 11:14:11 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
posting in 100001th thread about NO


Look at all the content James 315 has generated, both directly and indirectly. They should give him an unique ship or something!

if we calculate all amount of sh*t i generated in my toiled for years..... you would be amazed Cool

does it count as "player generated content" and do i deserve "unique ship"?

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#52 - 2013-10-18 11:16:00 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Nanatoa wrote:
Look at all the content James 315 has generated, both directly and indirectly. They should give him an unique ship or something!
But was it good content ? Is there anything about bumping uglies ships that folks that play other games find worthy..........or newsworthy even ?Nope.

I don't think that's a criteria, because what do folks that play other games find worthy in someone enabling gambling addiction, making ingame and real life profits in the process? At least James 315 runs Minerbumping as a non-profit, spending all cash coming in on the Minerbumping community.


Believe me, the other gamers look on the activity of just physically bumping ships as idiotic, as they rightly should.

After bumping a ship 3 times, CONCORD should intervene for the disruption of free commerce and trade within Empire Space.

Or Red Flagged at least if they want some real excitement.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#53 - 2013-10-18 11:20:56 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Believe me, the other gamers look on the activity of just physically bumping ships as idiotic, as they rightly should.

After bumping a ship 3 times, CONCORD should intervene for the disruption of free commerce and trade within Empire Space.

Or Red Flagged at least if they want some real excitement.


*Shakes sarcasmeter*

Hmmm maybe this thing really is borked....


"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-10-18 11:25:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:


Believe me, the other gamers look on the activity of just physically bumping ships as idiotic, as they rightly should.

After bumping a ship 3 times, CONCORD should intervene for the disruption of free commerce and trade within Empire Space.

Or Red Flagged at least if they want some real excitement.


*Shakes sarcasmeter*

Hmmm maybe this thing really is borked....


I just realised that you miss an IDDQD and/or IDKFAin your signature...


edit: my bad.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#55 - 2013-10-18 11:29:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
March rabbit wrote:
does it count as "player generated content" and do i deserve "unique ship"?

Hardly... then again, CCP's deffinition of "valuable player generated content" is quite... I dunno, really.

...sometimes it feels like anything someone in game can think of, that CCP could not, prompts them to point at it and say: Look at that awesome player generated content! Roll

That's one way to do it, I guess... *shrugs*

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Naydra Adni
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-10-18 11:45:08 UTC
aha! content and mildly amusing.. I knew ya could do it!
Black Canary Jnr
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2013-10-18 11:52:42 UTC
Ahem, i think you'll find the only tank is the permit tank. That and following the code laid out in www.minerbumping.com will allow you to extract James315s resources in high sec for one whole year, free of bumping.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2013-10-18 12:16:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
I don't normally pipe up on these threads, mostly because I stand rather indifferently in opinion on the "New Order" and role players in general, as does RIGID alliance and its associates in general. Their NPC ganking alts have stepped on our toes in the past, so we stepped back substantially harder, and they haven't bothered us again. We don't support them.... but we don't really oppose them either, we just play the game and defend what's ours.

On that note, I can't remember who had it, but I remember seeing a sig once on a respected GD regular that stated that if you cannot defend what you have, it was never yours to begin with.

Do with that what you will.

EDIT: I also 100% agree with the sentiment posted below me.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#59 - 2013-10-18 12:24:50 UTC
I propose that falsely accusing people of violating the EULA or the ToS for the purposes of bluster or sabre rattling be made into a violation of both. Bannable, of course.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Feer Truelight
#60 - 2013-10-18 12:38:02 UTC
Came in to read miner tears - left (as always) very satisfied and with a smile on the face :)

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