Crime & Punishment

The end times are near for you at least. You skirt the rules of the EULA by claiming its how Eve is played and you ruin the game play experience for others by bullying them to pay ransom and then making them change their bios to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining. And while I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec it is how the game is played. The real problem is they can not fight back because of the same rules and that is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope.

Until then I have had enough , I war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight. Two words for that first , SWEET I am gonna enjoy this so much I war deced the alliance already. Second pathetic 130+ people to fight a one women corp seriously. You will get a lot of blob KMs proving your inability to actually PvP and collect a lot of my corpses for the same reason but I will rack up kills not just against the blobs but also your solo gankers out their relying on the fear of your gank blobs to harass players into paying ransom to play a game they pay for.

And again while it is to a point how the game is played I for one find it disgusting that a few vocal players get their jollies harassing others even in areas that are supposed to be safe from that. The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is.

I have already called for assistance and do so now as well in taking the fight to you. Not only will I fight you and your gankers no matter how many of my ships you blow up or how many of my corpses you collect. I will hit you where it hurts, I will teach the simple ways to ruin your day. While bumping and ganking can not be entirely avoided they can be easily made not worth your effort.

Simply orbit the rock your mining as close as you can get without bumping makes it hard to get a good bump and since your ship will try and return to the orbit it takes more time and effort to bump someone out of mining range and time for ransomers like y'all is money. And depending on what you are mining in you could easily fill your hold before being bumped off grid and even if bumped off you will return to the orbit once they stop. Just restart your mining lasers once you check on your afk miner and your good to go.

Stopping the gank is also impossible but again you can make it not worth their wild. First thing to remember is you only need to last long just long enough for concord to kill them for you. I believe 27 secs or so is the max you need to last , just about any shield or armor tank will out last a newbie ship the most common gank ship and a half way decent one will stop just about any solo gankers. Or it will at least mean they will have to waste a lot of isk on a high dps ship. And their are plenty fr mining ship builds that can out last 5-6 DD's. By costing them more money then its worth they will give up.

Another point use cheap mining ships for afk mining , your not gonna lose much mining if your afk mining by flying a Venture over say a hulk 6k vrs 8k.And the venture is a fast little ship orbiting at 1k a ganker is not gonna bump you off grid. and it can shield tank like no ones business. Being a frig its hard for big ships to hit and little ones will no do enough damage to pop you before concord pops them.

And if your not AFK mining why are you letting them bump you off grid pay attention and orbit your rock , equip a decent tank and laugh as they waste time and isk.



Those that wish to help fell free to offer assistance or just war dec them yourselves. for those needing help against their solo gankers let me know if I am near enough I might head your way , depending on if I run out of targets in my main area near kamio. Even those that do not want to risk a fight can help by teaching people how to avoid the suicide gank and the bump. It is real easy to do and why give them the satisfaction hhmmm.

So have fun despite them and James IT IS ON!!!!

In what way does what they're doing skirt the EULA? How does the EULA keep people from fighting back?

So don't wardec corps if you're not ready for the eventuality of them bringing in allies to support them. vOv

Which vocal minority are you talking about here?

If all the miners leave, who will there be left to bump?

You know damn well there's a CCP think tank analyzing that very situation right now. In an Ice Fortress secreted under a live volcano, riding dark fiber and so far off the grid that not even the NSA has collected their email specimens for threat analysis.

I war decced them on purpose and harassing players is against the EULA , CCP's definition of harassment has taken a bad turn over the yrs , the fact that they made it a lot harder to gank in high sec is proof they have realized that.

As for not being able to fight back its simple without risking sec status by attacking first and getting concorded there is no way to fight back against those who do not care about that and forcing people to pay isk and change their bios to avoid continued harassment by taking advantage of game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. CCP is making strides to fight such things but they made the big mistake in the beginning to ignore EULA violations in order to gain and keep players. Those that have been around from day one well remember the days that the only people playing were gankers and bots.

As for the vocal minority simple , gankers are.

Well I guess they will start having to bump PvP players who will be forced to mine as the real miners will be in greener pastures.

Well..

Hello there future war target.

CCP's definition and enforcement of harassment has become a bit stricter, yes, but only where it matters: to remove newbie griefing. So that's not actually a bad thing.

But the New Order isn't harassing players — they're running a legitimate extortion racket, which is fully within the rules. Harassment kicks in when they start targeting specific players, following them around and making it impossible for them to actually play the game. None of that is happening.

Again, no. There is nothing in the EULA that prohibits protection rackets. And just because you don't like the consequences doesn't mean there is no way of striking back.

…but again, there are no violations of the EULA in this case. They are not keeping you from playing the game and they're not forcing you to do anything. You are choosing to go along with their scheme to avoid the minute inconvenience of finding a better system to work in.

That doesn't make sense, since you said that the devs have continuously caved to this supposed minority. You're going to need to come up with something very concrete to show that they have in any way placated gankers (and I'm being kind here and leaving out the even more nonsensical claim that it's for fear of losing customers).

OP - You have it all backwards.
They are not breaking the EULA by bumping/ganking your ship.
The opposite is the case.


I mine daily without a permit - they never come to bump or gank my ships.

I feel they are discriminating against me by not doing this.
Discrimination against other players is covered by the EULA.

The main reason the new order does what it does, other than the free isk from their victims, is to extract tears for their own amusement.

So thanks for feeding them OP.

You are just adorable.