Ships & Modules

I don't believe ppl whine about that change and want missiles...
Smells clueless...but guess what: missiles do not "scale up and down" like guns...surely tracking is a problem for large guns, but the expl velocity / expl. radius or torps and cruise missiles makes em pretty weak against most stuff smaller than a BC.

Asking for a Torp boat with none of the advantages of the SBs and all of the torp weaknesses is laughphable. Unless you where hoping for insane range and bonuses (aka 2x times that of a Raven's)...

The Cruise scenario is also lauphable, as gank wise cruise missiles (any ammo type) on a Raven currently are not better than HML + furys on a Drake...

If sniping with missiles was OP, we would be seeing more Cerberuses around - we don't. For a reason.
If Cruise were a PVP weapon, see above. We would see them.

At least now you get a proper long range, decently hard hitting sniper. Yeah, it won't beat arties in alpha, but should bring some pain, and should out-range/out dmg other rail platforms. With the rail changes (hmm) it might be pretty good.

Now, if you where hoping for a BC with 2x the dmg projection of a SB, all the bonuses of the SB + applicable for both cruise and torps, then keep whining...it might work...tho ppl would might whine again, crying to get their hybrids back...

So if he writes the truth and that is oppose your opinion then he is not nice... yeah...
I too , would have preferred a torp or cruise boat , with a lame bonus to velocity something which still keeps torps close ranged weapons and still doesnt cut cruise missiles delay to an acceptable lvl. Also would like to use my rage torps to get +10% eft paper dps over other close ranged turret boats , which mitigates faster than my 0 buffertank vs anything that actually moves.

Yeah so another completly useless large missile boat ,maybe workable for pve, or promising rail ship which can actually hurt.

Oh just to remind you guys :
-CCP is buffing hybrids so maybe they will be usefull once
-CCP doesnt look at large missiles -> will be useless for pvp for another year at least

That would describe mostly carebears in NPC corps if you ask me...

It's an interesting development, hybrids, commonly accepted as being under powered for some time now, will be on two new ships coming out this winter as well as getting some much needed balancing. Whereas missiles, also under-represented in PvP, despite even the popularity of the drake (which last time I checked was second in popularity to the cane), will have no new platform in the next expansion. Irrespective of the viability of a torp BC it's understandable that missile users would be disheartened.

Where some of the pro-missile users have gone wrong is in trying to say the naga was better off the way it was, sadly this simply isn't the case. Torp boats are notorious for looking great in eft and giving a mediocre performance in-game under real conditions (except for passive pos bashing where the raven shines). It would be great if CCP could try to balance missiles for use in PvP to make them more viable once they have finished with Hybrids. I'm not sure it could be done without a radical overhaul though... I wouldn't want the job of getting it all to balance!

Yeah, shame.

Since we got the Rokh over 2 years ago, you got an awesomemMaurader, You have a missile based Black Ops, a missile based combat recon, a missile based brawler BC called the drake, a Navy scorpion, and hybrids left behind since 2007.

But that wasn't the worst part. No, that came after. The new interchangable T3 cruisers. Oh how cool, I could get an agile sniping cruiser, or I could reconfigure for a brawling up close blaster boat with a good tank.

No, the Tengu is a missile boat. The ~only~ T3 ship. And yet we said nothing.

Rails got ONE BATTLESHIP, YEARS ago, which has been completely unusable until now.

Go find a cliff, and take your Tengu with you.