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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard.
#81 - 2013-10-17 10:43:26 UTC
Roamed to the gal/cal fw area yesterday around 21:00 ,, visted all the known spots for fights, but found no 10+ gangs to fight or a group that would form if we stayed. No signs of TEST or any other big fw group either. All I saw was gallente plexing systems up & pretending to be afk and caldari scrubs running around without fc's

Maybe this is usual during 21:00evetime or I picked the wrong day.... buttt geez that fw zone is boring on wednesday.

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Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#82 - 2013-10-17 12:39:24 UTC
Aslon Seridith wrote:
Roamed to the gal/cal fw area yesterday around 21:00 ,, visted all the known spots for fights, but found no 10+ gangs to fight or a group that would form if we stayed. No signs of TEST or any other big fw group either. All I saw was gallente plexing systems up & pretending to be afk and caldari scrubs running around without fc's

Maybe this is usual during 21:00evetime or I picked the wrong day.... buttt geez that fw zone is boring on wednesday.


A lot of GalMil is still deployed around the Heydelies / OMS / Ladistier area, finishing up that campaign. We pushed hard as hell over the past weekend and some folks are taking a much needed break.

TEST is basing out of Tamo, which means that they enter the warzone through the Sarenemi / Hykanima pipe. They took both Kehjari and Martoh last night, using 40+ man armor cruiser gangs with lots of logi... plus dreads and carriers. DUST played a large part again, taking the systems well past vulnerable where our deplexing efforts couldn't scratch things.

21:00 was definitely a bit early for them, and for us, as a lot of GalMil in the northwestern part of the warzone are USTZ. You'll still get goodfights around the Eha / Innia area, especially in Innia if you want larger crews (10+ that you were looking for). By the time 23:00 or so rolls around that part of the WZ heats up a lot more.

In short, wrong time wrong place. Plenty of fights to be had out in the northwest. I'd speculate that Eha is the next TEST target, which is going to be a much tougher nut for them to crack.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-10-17 13:37:12 UTC
More like an actual nut. Martoh is a giant nothing system and to the best of my knowledge, no-body of note in the Galmil lives in Urpiken. We'll see what happens. Should be interesting either way.
Steve Ross
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#84 - 2013-10-17 13:51:52 UTC
Callduron wrote:
TEST should be fine. Their strengths are that they are very well organised. All of the advice on how to run sites will be made available in newbie-friendly format internally and the small fleet nature will quite suit TEST's current style. Plus they have ex-FW corp Rubella Solaris.

The weakness of TEST is that it allows each individual to do whatever they want. Actually that's both a strength and a weakness, it makes them popular as people can just join them then farm isk without ever contributing, but of course it's a weakness that they have so many people not pursuing the alliance goal.

I hope that people in TEST rally round and support the FW campaign rather than mooching off to do their own thing. The guy blowing up Hulks isn't really helping his alliance especially if they have to fight out-numbered and out-classed. It's good that the new alliance leader, SkierX, is also the campaign commander. Should increase buy-in.

The clueless Rifter pilot is a very out-of-date meme by the way. Over half of TEST members have over 50 million skill points.


Yes indeed, we have been in FW before, so we know how to do this. This is quite a good experience for us all, since we kind of do need some extra ISK and small gang PVP training.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#85 - 2013-10-17 14:54:31 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:

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I left CalMil/Templis because fights were *relatively* impossible and frustrating to find. Much more fulfilling experience in JUSTK/GalMil.

And now Test is joining CalMil so plenty of fights will be happening.


You left Calmil to join JustK to FIND fights?

Guys, its no secret that the Galmil guys WAY outnumber the calmil'ers.


This is just not true. The non russian part of OMG can field 15-20 people, the russian part can field 25-35(+). Talon and friends seems to be able to field upwards of 40(+). God knows about the other corps and alliances but this alone is already enough ACTIVE pilots to far far exceed the activity levels of the combined gallente militia in all timezones.

Gallente seem to outnumber caldari since all corps tend to fly together to achieve larger goals.

Fact is that if caldari did the same, the impression that gallente has more active pilots would be as much a running joke as the broken caldari militia.


Sigh. You know, I guess your right about the active pilot comment. The problem is that Calmil doesnt have the larger alliances (with the exception of OMG) in my (your) region. In fact, I did notice last night that we have a much larger amount of people in Essence now that it has flipped. I sure would like to know where these guys where when we needed help defending.

The issue with calmil at current is that if we fight someone such as qcats.. 15 more pilots show up in system. We cant match those numbers, simply put.

TEST may be able to help even the numbers, and thats my hope.

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#86 - 2013-10-17 14:59:02 UTC
Good fun in Martoh last night. Smile

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Courath Al'viendi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2013-10-17 16:47:03 UTC
It seems Test spends more time spamming local than actually doing anything. They talk a ton of trash then got destroyed. They are probably swimming in a sea of red on their KB. And LOOK AT ALL THE POD DEATHS!
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#88 - 2013-10-17 17:33:23 UTC
Give em time, I'm sure at least some of them will get better. But for now, enjoy all the easy kills :p

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Veskrashen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#89 - 2013-10-17 17:55:35 UTC
They seem to have won a fight up in Ladistier recently.

We Gallente have a saying: "CCP created the Gallente Militia to train the Fighters..."
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#90 - 2013-10-17 18:10:28 UTC
Looks more like Old Man Gang was probably running that show. But we all need(ed) someone to learn from at some point. I know I would still be even more lost in the woods than I am now if it weren't for some of the vets in Gal Mil.

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Deacon Abox
Black Eagle5
#91 - 2013-10-17 22:00:40 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
The issue with calmil at current is that if we fight someone such as qcats.. 15 more pilots show up in system. We cant match those numbers, simply put.

TEST may be able to help even the numbers, and thats my hope.

Yes . . numbers . . oh look http://facwarstats.appspot.com/ and http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/State_Protectorate v. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Federal_Defense_Union.

By whatever measure Calmil has always outnumbered Galmil by a not insignificant amount. The too often heard caldari whine of being blobbed is tired, old, and simply untrue. Every entity in this game seeks to engage with advantageous numbers. I certainly never have been blobbed by caldari militia Roll So really what you should be complaining about is the multitude of worthless lp leeches with stabbed and cloaking merlins that populate your militia. Idea

CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting off button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.

Scrutt5
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#92 - 2013-10-17 23:28:59 UTC
Well guys, I am checking the test killboard on a regular basis.

I have as yet to see their front page at less than 95% red (losses)
They are seriously getting a spanking numbers or not.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#93 - 2013-10-18 00:07:42 UTC
Scrutt5 wrote:
Well guys, I am checking the test killboard on a regular basis.

I have as yet to see their front page at less than 95% red (losses)
They are seriously getting a spanking numbers or not.



Give them time - I think they will do ok once they settle in.
Everyone gets smashed the 1st time they jump into FW.

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Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#94 - 2013-10-18 01:55:30 UTC
Deacon Abox wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
The issue with calmil at current is that if we fight someone such as qcats.. 15 more pilots show up in system. We cant match those numbers, simply put.

TEST may be able to help even the numbers, and thats my hope.

Yes . . numbers . . oh look http://facwarstats.appspot.com/ and http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/State_Protectorate v. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Federal_Defense_Union.

By whatever measure Calmil has always outnumbered Galmil by a not insignificant amount. The too often heard caldari whine of being blobbed is tired, old, and simply untrue. Every entity in this game seeks to engage with advantageous numbers. I certainly never have been blobbed by caldari militia Roll So really what you should be complaining about is the multitude of worthless lp leeches with stabbed and cloaking merlins that populate your militia. Idea



Caldari may have more pilots but the combat component as a percentage of the total is low. For example: Caldari has 100 pilots but only 13 participate in combat; compared to Gallente that have 65 but field 40 pilots.

Gallente seem to field substantially more combat pilots than Caldari are capable of deploying. As far as I can remember. It's been that way since late 2010, early 2011.

NOT TO MENTION strange things like corporations in Cal factional warfare that literally never go to low security space at all (why are you in factional warfare?). Also I know there's a lot of NCDOT, PL, and NULLI isk farmers in Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari militia. Seems near 30% of the pilots in these entities have alts in factional warfare (very common).

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Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2013-10-18 03:54:39 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
The issue with calmil at current is that if we fight someone such as qcats.. 15 more pilots show up in system. We cant match those numbers, simply put.

TEST may be able to help even the numbers, and thats my hope.

Yes . . numbers . . oh look http://facwarstats.appspot.com/ and http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/State_Protectorate v. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Federal_Defense_Union.

By whatever measure Calmil has always outnumbered Galmil by a not insignificant amount. The too often heard caldari whine of being blobbed is tired, old, and simply untrue. Every entity in this game seeks to engage with advantageous numbers. I certainly never have been blobbed by caldari militia Roll So really what you should be complaining about is the multitude of worthless lp leeches with stabbed and cloaking merlins that populate your militia. Idea



Caldari may have more pilots but the combat component as a percentage of the total is low. For example: Caldari has 100 pilots but only 13 participate in combat; compared to Gallente that have 65 but field 40 pilots.

Gallente seem to field substantially more combat pilots than Caldari are capable of deploying. As far as I can remember. It's been that way since late 2010, early 2011.

NOT TO MENTION strange things like corporations in Cal factional warfare that literally never go to low security space at all (why are you in factional warfare?). Also I know there's a lot of NCDOT, PL, and NULLI isk farmers in Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari militia. Seems near 30% of the pilots in these entities have alts in factional warfare (very common).


Well, TEST has given life to Caldari during US TZ tonight. There were at least 7 Caldari fleets out, each in the 20-50 range. Caldari are coming out of the air and it is glorious. 4 of us managed to kill half of one of the 20 man fleets.

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Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-10-18 05:02:36 UTC
The Caldari corps and pilots are also incredibly sheltered and isolated. Very hard for a pilot in Templis to join a fleet that's being FC'd by Black Talon. In Gal Mil, it's incredibly easy. I'm sure the numbers are relatively equal, but the ego of the CalMil corps that don't draw from GenMil or from fellow CalMil alliances is astonishing.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#97 - 2013-10-18 05:43:10 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
The Caldari corps and pilots are also incredibly sheltered and isolated. Very hard for a pilot in Templis to join a fleet that's being FC'd by Black Talon. In Gal Mil, it's incredibly easy. I'm sure the numbers are relatively equal, but the ego of the CalMil corps that don't draw from GenMil or from fellow CalMil alliances is astonishing.


Not really.

I have never had a problem joining any group within CalMil for a fleet.

It just that TZs doesn't match up well for some groups in Caldari.

When Black Talon are rolling - others are sleeping/working etc.
I never get to fly with them due to my tz. (And they keep using fkn armor fleets soooo...)

Some CalMil alliance do work together.
But I admit we wont draw from General Militia - but for very good reasons.
Nothing to do with ego.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#98 - 2013-10-18 06:54:39 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
NOT TO MENTION strange things like corporations in Cal factional warfare that literally never go to low security space at all (why are you in factional warfare?). Also I know there's a lot of NCDOT, PL, and NULLI isk farmers in Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari militia. Seems near 30% of the pilots in these entities have alts in factional warfare (very common).

Wanted: Large Null Sec Corp to set up alts to farm for Gallente. Our Navy Domis are just as good looking as their Navy Ravens. We're not fat, our ships just have big bones!
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#99 - 2013-10-18 09:40:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Major Killz wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
The issue with calmil at current is that if we fight someone such as qcats.. 15 more pilots show up in system. We cant match those numbers, simply put.

TEST may be able to help even the numbers, and thats my hope.

Yes . . numbers . . oh look http://facwarstats.appspot.com/ and http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/State_Protectorate v. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Federal_Defense_Union.

By whatever measure Calmil has always outnumbered Galmil by a not insignificant amount. The too often heard caldari whine of being blobbed is tired, old, and simply untrue. Every entity in this game seeks to engage with advantageous numbers. I certainly never have been blobbed by caldari militia Roll So really what you should be complaining about is the multitude of worthless lp leeches with stabbed and cloaking merlins that populate your militia. Idea



Caldari may have more pilots but the combat component as a percentage of the total is low. For example: Caldari has 100 pilots but only 13 participate in combat; compared to Gallente that have 65 but field 40 pilots.

Gallente seem to field substantially more combat pilots than Caldari are capable of deploying. As far as I can remember. It's been that way since late 2010, early 2011.

NOT TO MENTION strange things like corporations in Cal factional warfare that literally never go to low security space at all (why are you in factional warfare?). Also I know there's a lot of NCDOT, PL, and NULLI isk farmers in Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari militia. Seems near 30% of the pilots in these entities have alts in factional warfare (very common).


Not correct at all, observed fleet numbers over the last week or 2 have shown the same or more numbers for caldari. Even before TEST joined. Unless you are suggesting that most of the members in these fleets are just optimistic salvaging alts?
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#100 - 2013-10-18 11:46:15 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Major Killz wrote:
Deacon Abox wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
The issue with calmil at current is that if we fight someone such as qcats.. 15 more pilots show up in system. We cant match those numbers, simply put.

TEST may be able to help even the numbers, and thats my hope.

Yes . . numbers . . oh look http://facwarstats.appspot.com/ and http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/State_Protectorate v. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Federal_Defense_Union.

By whatever measure Calmil has always outnumbered Galmil by a not insignificant amount. The too often heard caldari whine of being blobbed is tired, old, and simply untrue. Every entity in this game seeks to engage with advantageous numbers. I certainly never have been blobbed by caldari militia Roll So really what you should be complaining about is the multitude of worthless lp leeches with stabbed and cloaking merlins that populate your militia. Idea



Caldari may have more pilots but the combat component as a percentage of the total is low. For example: Caldari has 100 pilots but only 13 participate in combat; compared to Gallente that have 65 but field 40 pilots.

Gallente seem to field substantially more combat pilots than Caldari are capable of deploying. As far as I can remember. It's been that way since late 2010, early 2011.

NOT TO MENTION strange things like corporations in Cal factional warfare that literally never go to low security space at all (why are you in factional warfare?). Also I know there's a lot of NCDOT, PL, and NULLI isk farmers in Amarr, Minmatar and Caldari militia. Seems near 30% of the pilots in these entities have alts in factional warfare (very common).


Not correct at all, observed fleet numbers over the last week or 2 have shown the same or more numbers for caldari. Even before TEST joined. Unless you are suggesting that most of the members in these fleets are just optimistic salvaging alts?


Or it's a TZ thing. When I am on (late NA/early AU) there are almost never more than 10 Caldari in a given fleet while Gallente can still field well towards 20. Does not mean we do not get fights...in fact some of the best solo roaming is done at this time I feel after playing in most TZs. Just that it does seem CalMil is more fragmented TZ wise than the others which have better coverage. Case in point: I know Templis can field a 20-man gang in late EU TZ and outnumber GalMil opposition a majoriy of the time. From what I gather, that flip-flops around prime NA.


I don't think I've ever seen a Caldari say "we have no farmers" though....if anything that's CalMil's issue - farmers and people with authority complexes that feel their 1 man corp in Jita should have the same opinion as a 200 man alliance in lowsec.

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