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YES YOU CAN HAVE MY STUFF / DNSBLACK LOOKING FOR GTC SELLER

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Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#81 - 2013-10-17 06:31:19 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:

I had a big client the other day who was from dirt nap squad but i forgot his name. All I remember was he failed the rules quite badly. Was this you/


It certainly wasn't me. I broke the crap out of your rules, on purpose :p


Her rules are just crap.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Prince Kobol
#82 - 2013-10-17 06:33:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
DNSBLACK wrote:
1. I am looking for a 3rd party wholesale GTC seller.

2. I would like to discuss the terms on splitting your profit with me to raffle off some of my in game assets.

3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle once all my assets are gone. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.

4. 1 Black credit for the raffle will be given out for every GTC bought on your site. You can hold the raffle once 1000 GTC have been sold. If players would like to buy a ticket in game it will cost 1 plex and you can have them contract it to you.

5. This practice has been ok'd and does not break the EULA according to CCP.

I am doing this to re-capture some of my money I have spent on EVE over the last 7 years and look for another game to play. This is not a joke and CCP has left me no choice. I suggest that everyone of you look to sell your stuff in this manner before CCP cracks down.

So if you are a third party seller of GTC please send me a eve mail with your percentage offer let the bidding begin.


Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2013-10-17 07:41:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Xen Solarus wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:

I had a big client the other day who was from dirt nap squad but i forgot his name. All I remember was he failed the rules quite badly. Was this you/


It certainly wasn't me. I broke the crap out of your rules, on purpose :p


Her rules are just crap.
I bet you talk down to her just so...
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2013-10-17 07:44:21 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:


Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby

lol you don't quite get it.
DarkDecay
Real money traders
#85 - 2013-10-17 08:56:51 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Yeah one problem with your 'game'. Markee Dragon, to whom you're obviously referring, isn't a wholesale GTC seller. He's a reseller and he buys his GTC's at a wholesale company (not a lot of which exist as far as I know).

But yeah, should be legal. If SOMER can do it so should everyone else. Will be fun seeing CCP's reaction if more of these things start popping up all over the place :D

The follow on from that is, does it have to involve GTC and CCP making a profit for it to be legit.

For example can I sell you a pen for say $10.00USD + P&H (Specially engraved pen, it has the words BIC on the side of it) and give you 1.2 billion pen credits to spend on lotteries on a web site.

Now on this website you can of course bid on other pens +p&h or if you choose you can take all of the pen lottery slots in a lottery and spend the 1.2 billion pen credits and convert that to isk-20%. So you receive 1 billion isk and a pen.

Lol


If you read the posts by one of the resellers, EVE-GAMES in the main thread, this would not be allowed as he thinks the separation of referrer and seller is why it does not break the EULA. The logic seems to be YOU are selling the stuff for isk so the EULA is broken.

What you need to do is make a break in the isk-stuff chain: you offer the ISK to anyone who buys X from another site then you are not trading isk for item directly. So isk-intermediary-stuff is legally ok.
Prince Kobol
#86 - 2013-10-17 09:02:37 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:


Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby

lol you don't quite get it.


Oh I get it, I just don't give a crap, if he wants to leave then leave.
DarkDecay
Real money traders
#87 - 2013-10-17 09:03:09 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby


Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself.

CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK!
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#88 - 2013-10-17 09:14:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
DarkDecay wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby


Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself.

CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK!

Agreed.
If we're now allowed to turn our assets into cash when we quit, it makes liquidising some accounts much more appealing next time I go through a "bored of eve" slump (due any time now I think). I only really care about my main, I could sell the rest, then "raffle" the isk into cash. Clarify if this is now allowed please CCP!

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Prince Kobol
#89 - 2013-10-17 09:23:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
DarkDecay wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby


Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself.

CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK!


You need that list dumbass otherwise you can't do squat..

Its very simple.

First thing is you have to do is contact the sites on that list and see if they run a referral program.

Then create a Eve Lottery Site with links to those sites which you have signed up to their referral program.

Give free lottery tickets to anybody who purchases GTC's via your links.

Job Done.
DarkDecay
Real money traders
#90 - 2013-10-17 09:37:08 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
DarkDecay wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby


Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself.

CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK!


You need that list dumbass otherwise you can't do squat..

Its very simple.

First thing is you have to do is contact the sites on that list and see if they run a referral program.

Then create a Eve Lottery Site with links to those sites which you have signed up to their referral program.

Give free lottery tickets to anybody who purchases GTC's via your links.

Job Done.


Would appear you are the dumbass here.

To maximise the profit you need to get on that list. With my in game assets I can give 200mil per gtc to about 11k buyers. This will make me around $33,000 (based on $3 per gtc sold).

By becoming a reseller and not just a user, I can offer deals to other people. This means that I can offer deals to some smaller customers to convert their ISK to $ with a small cut of the ISK for me: say 100 million to me and 200 million to the customer for $3.

This will allow me to make a lot more $ than I would by simply using someone on the list, dumbass.
Herr Esiq
Viziam
#91 - 2013-10-17 09:49:15 UTC
Exept that you dont convert ISK to $ you convert them to raffle tickets.
CCP Falcon
#92 - 2013-10-17 09:56:53 UTC
This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum.

Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.

Smile

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Naiobi
De tre liderlige skinker
#93 - 2013-10-17 10:01:20 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum.

Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.

Smile




I hope someone have been quick to print screen on the EULA, you cant trust anyone when it comes to RL cash. (call me paranoid) But if DNS is right about this, then he got CCP's balls in his hand.
Prince Kobol
#94 - 2013-10-17 10:02:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
DarkDecay wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
DarkDecay wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Posting in I'm quitting Drama Queen thread #132408

Here is a list of 3rd Parties.

https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out cry baby


Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself.

CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK!


You need that list dumbass otherwise you can't do squat..

Its very simple.

First thing is you have to do is contact the sites on that list and see if they run a referral program.

Then create a Eve Lottery Site with links to those sites which you have signed up to their referral program.

Give free lottery tickets to anybody who purchases GTC's via your links.

Job Done.


Would appear you are the dumbass here.

To maximise the profit you need to get on that list. With my in game assets I can give 200mil per gtc to about 11k buyers. This will make me around $33,000 (based on $3 per gtc sold).

By becoming a reseller and not just a user, I can offer deals to other people. This means that I can offer deals to some smaller customers to convert their ISK to $ with a small cut of the ISK for me: say 100 million to me and 200 million to the customer for $3.

This will allow me to make a lot more $ than I would by simply using someone on the list, dumbass.



By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..

At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk or isk to RL Money

They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.

Now some people will say you can use that credit to guarantee a win and then converting that to isk by blinking on all slots on a ship, however that isn't as easy as it sounds as chances are somebody will place a blink on that ship so your chance of success whilst high isn't 100%.

So you still need a method of attracting people to your site and to use your referral service without offering them isk.

Like the example I gave, on a lottery site you would give x number of tickets in return.

So those using your referral might have a higher chance of winning said lottery due to them having more tickets. but it isn't 100% guaranteed.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#95 - 2013-10-17 10:54:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucas Kell
Prince Kobol wrote:
By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..

At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk or isk to RL Money

They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.

Now some people will say you can use that credit to guarantee a win and then converting that to isk by blinking on all slots on a ship, however that isn't as easy as it sounds as chances are somebody will place a blink on that ship so your chance of success whilst high isn't 100%.

So you still need a method of attracting people to your site and to use your referral service without offering them isk.

Like the example I gave, on a lottery site you would give x number of tickets in return.

So those using your referral might have a higher chance of winning said lottery due to them having more tickets. but it isn't 100% guaranteed.

Bull!
Credits are as good as isk. Not to mention they can only offer "credit" by having the isk to back it up.
Also 80% of the credit WILL be able to be converted into isk. It may not be by the buyer, but 80% of the credit value will en up as winnings.
What you have here is a technicality they are using the launder isk into cash, nothing more.
To do the same, the only thing you'd need to do is offer "tickets" not isk, then allow you to buy a whole lottery for 100% of the winnings. Slapping the word "game" on it would make it as valid as Somer.

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Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Reckless Ourtomineng
#96 - 2013-10-17 12:26:51 UTC
What has this thread to do with event & gathering ? :O
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
#97 - 2013-10-17 12:31:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Abditus Cularius
CCP Falcon wrote:
This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum.

Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.

Smile



Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle.

And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE.

So....there's your rule review.
Dani Lizardov
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#98 - 2013-10-17 12:45:27 UTC
Abditus Cularius wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum.

Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.

Smile



Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle.

And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE.

So....there's your rule review.



No no... please allow me to help You:
I have a few Machariels and I would like to put em in a raffles, especially if that will net me 200$ per ship.
Does that help?

Quote:
raffles for characters have never been allowed

Are you sure? I can remember a few. I would probably dig up the forum posts about them using google....
How is a character different from a Machariel? It has an Isk value. It's legal. They are rules about it....

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#99 - 2013-10-17 13:24:46 UTC
Abditus Cularius wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:
This thread is being moved to the Ingame Events and Gatherings sub-forum.

Our customer support team is also in the process of reviewing this particular style of raffle to ensure it conforms with our rules and policies.

Smile



Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle.

And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE.

So....there's your rule review.

shilling for Somer in yet another thread aye? Roll
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#100 - 2013-10-17 13:28:39 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:

By converting isk to $ you have just committed RMT..

At no point does Somerblink which thread is aimed at, covert RL Money to Isk or isk to RL Money

They give blink credits in turn for you using their referral scheme.


That's the genius part of the entire thing. Neither of the two parties in this setup directly handle both the ISK AND the real money and thus there is no RMT to speak of.

If you would attempt to do this thing on your own IE; you both sell the GTC's AND run the lottery THEN it would be RMT.

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