Test Server Feedback

I posted on this on the dev blog, but I figured I should reinforce it here on the test server feedback.


First, I applaud you CCP for making the effort to make isk better in 0.0. However, you did it completely wrong.

With these changes I will effectively make less isk/hour, a lot less. With these changes I will probably be making half the isk/hour I do right now.

Please, I beg you comprehend the changes that you are doing because this is very, very bad. I am appalled that you don't grasp how some of us making our isk/hour.


For those that dont understand.

All CCP did was add more ships (BS and BCs to pump up the ISK:EHP ratio) to the anomalies, effectively making them harder to run, so you can't solo them as easily as you could.

The bounties on the ships have not changed, at all.

Simply put
You need a better tank, which means you have worse gank.

Let me reiterate that fact. You need a better tank so you have to drop damage mods, so you will be doing less DPS.


Less damage = killing a lot slower = worse isk/hour. This is *very* bad.

Right now I can make 90ish mil solo per hour. After patch, ill be lucky to hit 45-50.

Please do NOT do this. This is the wrong way to do it.

Edit: Also since anomalies will now take much longer, we will also have less faction spawns/escalations...

Good intentions ccp, terrible execution.

This is a a significant nerf. What a joke.

I guess there is always high sec incursions....

EDIT 2: for those who can't comprehend what ISK:EHP buffing actually did and that close range dps > long range dps.

They made Anomalies "worth more" by putting more ships in them

Effectively Lowering the Isk/Hour, because anomalies take longer and are harder to do, so you need a better tank and less gank.

They think making them "worth more" is equal to Isk per hour. Which is pretty hilarious and sad.

bring a friend and get more ISK?

this is MMO...

1. Bring a friend
2. Shoot more ships
3. ???
4. Profit!

It's supposed to be a multiplayer game, right? Besides, what should CCP do? If they keep anomalies the same difficulty and just increase the loot that will inflate the market and fsck everybody.

The man has a point.

If ISK faucets need to be slowed, incursions are where CCP should be looking, not 0.0 anomalies.

CCP's intended effect here is to improve 0.0 anoms and once again they have failed. Adding more ships and more viable anoms does not help the situation - there are always more anomalies/more ships to kill in an upgraded system and while improving the lower tier anoms will allow more people to profit simultaneously in VERY crowded systems it will in no way increase the isk/ratio under normal circumstances. In fact, it will go down as anoms become more difficult and require more tank.

A lot of people are saying that's great because inflation hurf durf, and people are entitled to that opinion, but that is not the intended effect of the change.

Hopefully CCP realizes that many of the people cheering for the change and opposing the OP are doing so because they perceive the change will lower isk/hr for anomalies.

tl:dr You can add as many ships as you want, but the rate at which a pilot can kill them will remain constant or decrease due to increased tanking needs.

lol silly people, distance = low damage? wow... get in a maelstrom with 1400mm *8 and load up some decent ammo ... and 1-2 shot battleships from FAR lol

Also i havent looked at the anomolies yet... but honestly more ships is not less ISK per hour...

As long as they didnt add 1000 frigates that you ahve to kill per spawn they didnt nerf it... if they added more bs's then they did improve it as that means less warping and more grinding in each anom those 1.1m bs's

And yes i noticed that some people seemed to miss the ISK:EHP part... for those that dont understand.. that means BS's will be worth more than they normally are and frigs will be around the same or less... why? Because that means the more ehp u can chew through per second the more isk you make per hour.

well said... and if you really need more tank and less gank thats your fault get a better tactic/ship

in the end if your not doing them in a tengu your doing it wrong should be able to blow through them fast even with the increase



edit then again could just bring in a domi and get good dps and tank the whole room

In my humble opinion, everyone is already steamrolling anoms with Tengus. Or Carriers. Or Rattlesnakes. Or some kind of überspaceship.

Tank isn't a problem. I mean, I fly a Machariel. I know what it means to "barely tank" something. But really, I had more troubles in some lvl4s in Empire space (Like Ennemies abound 5/5, or Smash the Supplier, where you have 20 Amarr BSs + some elite BSs, the Jakhars, if you don't kill the tower before more BSs spawn). I don't think that's normal. I mean, in Empire space everything is and should be easier.

Just upgrade your tank a little bit. Appart from the Machariel and the Drake, I don't know which race would have ships who can't tank the new anoms.

If you're Minmatar : Get a Maelstrom. If you have a Machariel, upgrade your shield modules, or get a fleet booster in a POS.

If you're Gallente : Hey, an Ishtar can tank everything. A Kronos would do the job aswell, especially with the incoming hybrid changes :)

If you're Amarr : A Nightmare can overtank and it can still deal DPS because of the shield tank.

If you're Caldari : Grab a decent Tengu, you'll tank whatever comes your way. Or, grab a Golem maybe (Actually, the Golem would be great. More battleships => More hittable targets for the Golem)