Warfare & Tactics

#1 - can flippers aren't really 'pirates', in general people will take that to mean hunting the lowsec flashy kind.

Highsec can PvP is a different story - since it's completely consensual you need something that a can-flipper will think they can kill and thus engage. Classic is vexor with one mining laser and mining drones, fill up the highs with nuetralizers, web/scram/ab in the mids, magstab or two and whatever tank you're comfortable with in the lows. Nuets/drones should slaughter any frigates that flip your can.

Sit in belt with mining lazor going, mining drones out, when someone flips your can lay on the web/scram nuets, abandon mining drones, launch Warrior II's, profit. Always carry ecm drones for the inevitable nuet RR - if your target is getting repped up don't do anything silly like shoot the repper, instead just ECM drone the frigate and GTFO.

Same general principle applies for fighting cruisers, though of course that's a lot more iffy and you'll want more in the tank department. In general, the number one things it to never fly anything that looks like a PvP ship that you're baiting with, which rules out most PvP ships on general principle - Vexor gets by because it's also often used as a mining ship and thus isn't as suspicious.

Thanks Tamiya, for the red outlaw peeps that I run across in .5 and .4 places (lowest secs I've ever been too), does the Vexor still work (minus a mining turret)?

Vexor can also do fine in lowsec (.4 and down), but it's an entirely different set of skills for nonconsensual PvP that are generally best learned in cheap ships like frigates. (Dscanning, rules of aggression, etc.)

An alternative ship for highsec is the Exequeror, if you're not getting bites in a Vexor - though it lacks the drone bonus 40m3 of bandwith + nuets should still take care of frigates fine, following the same basic fitting rules. (go for double webs in the mids) It's much less threatening that even a mining vexor, and so will be more likely to be canflipped. Definetely don't try to take on cruisers in this, or take it to lowsec.

Took about a week for my anti-pirate corp to say "**** this, just shoot people"

It didn't help that one of our members was actively trying to get -10...

Everything about this toon is opposite of what I am in real life

That's your problem right there.



And yeah can flippers are not even remotely pirates..high sec pvp is a bit LOL.

I suggest a ship such as a bhaal, vindi, or anything above the 500 mil range for a single hull. That will be very critical in attracting the pies. They love that ****.

Then I suggest you buy all faction and officer mods, it'll turn that ship into a BEAST. When those silly pies come and attack, you will surprise them to all hell with your powerful dps and tank.

I also suggest you do this solo for maximum efficiency.

And make sure to trash talk the pirates in system to a degree of "massive tool" proportions, then proceed to undock in your ultra powerful ship and make those damn pies cry.

Killing canflippers is not particularly difficult, the hard part is tricking them into flipping you to begin with. The best way to do this is to jet can mine in an armor tanked cruiser with a drone bonus, fill most of your highslots with mining lasers but put a couple of neuts in your empty slots, fit dual webs in your medslots. When someone flips you spit out T2 small drones, web and neut the guy and pop him then warp off and dock before he comes back in a battlecruiser.

Its essential that you have enough mining lasers to look like you're really mining if you have too few the flipper may suspect neuts and at no point should you EVER deploy 5 drones at once, not even mining drones and not T1 damage drones to kill rats, you don't want the canflipper to know you have Drones V.

That's a general rule for highsec: If you want a fight, look weak.

Its more a matter of using the right kind of ship and having it set up correctly. You can kill most frigates with a few days of skills if you know what you're doing.