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Are Caldari the worst race when it comes to ships?

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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#41 - 2013-10-16 13:35:17 UTC
Rokh.
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-10-16 13:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Aivo Dresden
cyndrogen wrote:
There isn't a SINGLE ship that anyone considers taking to incursions, except maybe the RNI, guess how many FC will pick RNI over a Vindi or a Mach.
Basilisks are always very welcome in shield incursions.

cyndrogen wrote:
everyone who is serious about PVP, at least to those I talked to, all pick Gallente, Minmatar or Amarr ships. Caldari are typically DEAD LAST. Always.
For PvP, you have the Merlin hull (which is great in its t1 and t2 version). You have the Caracal cruiser and the Cerberus as t2 variant and arguably the best recons. The Naga and Rokh are great rail platforms.

Then there is of course still the Drake, Tengu, Raven, ... some of the most used ships out there.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#43 - 2013-10-16 13:54:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Nobody sane engages a Rook solo.

The Blackbird, Falcon, and Scorpion are by far the most PITA ships in EVE [I'd rate the Dominix right below them.] The Kitsune is getting a buff in Rubicon.

The Rokh is under appreciated as a sniper platform, especially since the advent of MJD.

The Naga is an impressive sniper too, but with far less tank, and much higher speed and maneuverability than the Rokh. Less expensive too.

The Merlin and Harpy are both beastly frigates. Deadly with blasters [the blaster Harpy is the ship you are most likely to find me in at any given time], and excellent kiters with rails.

Though Scimitars are popular, Basilisks are also used in shield fleets... even Incursion fleets.

The Onyx is a well respected HIC, on par with the armor tanked Devoter. The Onyx can also be setup to have a significant passive tank too.

The Caracal is the bane of all frigates and destroyers. Quite possibly the ship most feared in all of EVE by small hull pilots.

Drake, Tengu, Nighthawk.... need I say more about these?

Though a glass cannon with limited range, with proper support a torp Raven is a very dangerous ship.

I know I missed a few, but the point being that Caldari do have a useful line-up. Of course all ships are just tools in EVE, so they may not be the tools you are looking for.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#44 - 2013-10-16 14:01:53 UTC
I can fly nearly every subcap in EVE, and I find over 25% of my ships end up Caldari.

I never fly Caldari missile boats, mind you. Can't freaking stand them, they are so utterly boring. However, their hybrid platforms tend to outperform Gallente due to having actually useful bonuses, and they basically make the best ships when it comes to scanning and EWAR. I've got a soft spot for the Manticore too, you can squeeze a lot out of that ship.
San La Muerte
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-10-16 14:49:31 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
We have the most unappealing ships of all the races.
Caldari are typically LAST to be picked for incursions because you know "flight time" of missiles.


Anyone want to discuss how Caldari are awesome? Can you think of one thing we are good at besides losing ships due to poor damage projection?


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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#46 - 2013-10-16 15:57:00 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
[quote=Antihrist Pripravnik][quote=cyndrogen]

Naga is an outstanding Skirmish fleet sniper.


it's also paper thin.


It's a sniper, not a brawler, they're supposed to be light on tank - doh!
Oswald Bolke
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2013-10-16 17:20:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Oswald Bolke
caricals seem to mess up most frigs day real fast

but granted, you don't really see a lot of cruisers running around other than that, yeah
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#48 - 2013-10-16 18:30:34 UTC
Ferox post med rail buff... tent-pitchingly awesome.

Cerberus... HAM brawler status.

Also, Rohk is...well its a ******* Rohk mother ******!

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#49 - 2013-10-16 19:25:11 UTC
T1 Caldari ships that I've seen a fair amount of while in Nulsec and FW space: Condor, Griffin, Kestrel, Merlin, Cormorant, Blackbird, Caracal, Moa, Drake, Naga, Rohk, (Battle) Badger

T2 Caldari ships that I've seen a fair amount of while in Nulsec and FW space: Manticore, Hawk, Harpy, Cerberus, Falcon, (T3) Tengu

That isn't even considering the use the faction ships have, nor the fact that the Charon and Rhea are generally considered the best of the freighters and jump freighters.

Just because you don't see them in Incursion fleets doesn't mean much of anything; they're still used quite heavily in PvP, and let's face it: the Golem and Navy Raven Issue are both extremely popular mission boats, as well.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#50 - 2013-10-16 20:14:05 UTC
As a general subcap pilot, as well as a occasional visitor of the incursion scene, all I can say is this...

Find an FC who isn't worried about the isk per hour, and likes to be chill and have a good time in comms. Or FC your own, similar setup.

Because I cannot stand the "elitism" of the incursion scene, when I find myself talked into running the godforsaken things...I use a Rattlesnake, merely dubbed, "Elitist Prick PVE."

Ironically, it can lay down about 1k dps with just Garde's, and with the no-tank setups of most incursion shield fleets....I have 4 slots for utility left after 2 Fed Navy Omni's and an Invuln of your choosing.

Leave the high's free of missiles, and fill them up with other utility (i.e. Shield reps, armor reps, cap xfers, so on and so forth.)

With 1k dmg, two Fed Navy webs, shield and cap xfers, and possibly either two painters, or two tracking links......there are quite few of even the elitist douche FC's that will take you.

And that is at least half a Caldari ship. Just sayin.

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