EVE General Discussion

Alright. After reading your post and some of the ones that followed, it seems to me that you are indeed upset over losing a little over 700m/isk worth of ingame stuff. Most players would have looked at that loss and moved on, because ultimately the blame rests on the gankee (the person who got ganked, in this case that would be you). This brings in an interesting question, or revelation depending on how you ask. As you may be finding this out, a -10 criminal cannot stop in highsec for very long before the Faction Police arrive on grid and begin to attack. Which means that you were either AFK at the gate, or on auto pilot "slow boating" to said gate. Hell you could have been AFK at a safe spot for all I know, but the reason why this is your fault is because you gave a -10 player enough time to react; which if you weren't AFK wouldn't have happened. You would have continued on your way never knowing anyone by the name D400.

So you'll say that you're new, or too new to have known. Granted, however, regardless of where the fault lies, why carry 700m/isk+ worth of stuff in a video game you probably heard of as being "anything goes" to then go AFK, to then complain about the consequences of your actions?

Really? Where is your documentation to prove this allegation?


You were AFK which is KOS.


Through content. Pirates help make Eve what it is, a game where anything can happen. It's justified here. It does, but as a new player you don't see it yet.

As stated CCP has already publicly voiced their decision, please do some more research. There are "hordes" of highsec players who find entertainment within NO as well as the general community. If you are receiving anxiety over a video game, then all of a sudden your arguments about how you're not mad and this is only a game are now null. We pay too bro, you're not the only paying customer here and neither is highsec.

it is said that james 315 hosts his own teaparties in the new order's HQ where his many friends such as cloud princess and big ted make pretend writing their manifestos as dark overlords of highsec. and then reading them to other in turn.

they last on average 3 weeks.

I chuckled, but you forgot about the part where we sing songs on ts...

Print? Try paint!

Your corpse is currently being used in an 'action pose' with other corpses.

At the end of which we may be open for bidding!

I'm still catching up on this thread, and it is a delectable array of tears, might I add, and I'd like to add my two cents.

People call the NJO (New James Order as I am calling it this one time and never again because I'm having flashbacks to a certain R.A. Salvatore moment--DAMN HIM!) many things. Criminals, bullies, extortionists, smart players using game mechanics to their own ends, the best emergent gameplay hi sec has had for a while, tear manufacturers/refiners/distributors--and yes, I agree--they are all of that.

But they are also rulers of their own little fiefdoms. Not using this term lightly. As I understand it they tend to hang out MAINLY in ice belts (unless their MO has changed lately). In these belts they are the rulers. James 315 is the King of the New Order, and his Knights police his realm. If you want to work in his fiefs, you must pay his tax, or you will be punished.

This is NO different than Null Security Space. Well, actually, it is. No Moons, and the rent is WAY higher out there. 10 Mil for a year? It's like 50+ times that for a month. Or higher, dunno. Don't keep track of neo-BoB (CFC--wasn't Goonswarm's whole problem with BoB the whole Renter mentality? That, and Goons wanted everything? Eh, I don't follow Null politics. Except when juicy tears are involved.)'s rent prices.

There is a difference though--James and his kingdom is a whole lot harder to police than New BoB's space. Because of CONCORDOKKEN. New BoB can scan/close WHs, bubble gates, activate cyno jammers, use jump bridges, field capital/supercapital fleets. field fleets that might fly again if they aren't welped. For James and his Knights, every time they fire a weapon the KNOW they will be dying. So I salute the New Order.

They have staked out their space. It was always about 3 systems, though they do sometimes expand and contract depending on who is online, stocks, etc. Been a while since I had an alt in the Order. Make no mistake--when they're online, and they're holding the field against unregistered miners, it is their space. The Sov belongs to an NPC, sure. But those belts? Those are THEIR belts when they're active. So do something about it.

Please.

Oh, just wait until I can make some popcorn, k?


Then again, if people actually gave this some thought, and listened to The Goblin, they might actually be able to AFK mine in relative safety while/until after the New Order goes after softer targets. They may still be subject to bumping, but that's what setting an orbit/paying the locals their due is for.

Granted, I don't have the permit in my bio, but that's just because I don't live in hi sec anymore.

Miners are like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H42jVUavXiA

Now, you can be Vance Munsen lusting after your precious ice.....

and the Order can be Hitch.

Their clients actually LIKE being at their keyboard. Hit F1 and Quit it isn't their thing.


EDIT:


Technically the fee only says that the NO won't blow them up.

It has NEVER guaranteed that OTHER gankers won't come in and pop them.

so yeah, sure, go for it.




I'm sure you meant "Nerfed it again." right?


and Le Judge, thank you.

You have inspired me to randomly gank/attempt to gank random *AUTOPILOTING* Iteron Vs.

Because why the hell not?

They won't know when, they won't know where, because honestly I don't give a crap and may only do it once on a whim or not at all and then go back into Wspace. Because I won't know when or where I'll do it.

Or maybe I'll develop an addiction. Who knows?

Is it the intermission yet?

I have to go AFK to Jita (with PLEX in my hold!) and get more popcorn.



To the judge forum troll person --> post with your main, srsly.

If you're so upset at the organised crime content that James and crew are providing for you, then you've got a couple of options (note, the list is neither exhaustive nor in any particular order).

1. GB2WOW
2. Move to somewhere they're not (e.g. lowsec)
3. Organize a resistance that doesn't suck.
4. Pay them
6. ???

Oh and in addition to this, move to another spot within high sec. If they follow you, report them for harassment.
CCP have clearly stated that while bumping itself is not against the rules, following people when they've made an attempt to move away is harassment.
See here

you can find anyone in k-space easily. the ingame and metaresources available to do this are very powerful.

The Savior of Highsec always has something important to say, and everything he says is important by virtue of the source

This is probably the best part .

I did follow the NO for some time. Bumping miners is just as interesting as mining rocks. But as gankers, they provide an excellent service to HS .

A healthy and thrilling feeling of anxiety is something to look out for. EVE is not about comfort. And last but not least: I'm a paying customer too. I do not share your opinions.