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Rubicon new character selection screen :S

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#21 - 2013-10-15 13:56:19 UTC  |  Edited by: TigerXtrm
Anyone wanna post a screenshot of what this guy is talking about, for those who aren't much inclined to install and log on to Sisi?

Edit: Nevermind, found it myself:

http://i.imgur.com/5NXdfE7.jpg

Looks shiny and new to me. And a way to see statistics and info for all characters in one go. That's an improvement in my experience. Just not a big fan of all the Rubicon Red that's going on.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#22 - 2013-10-15 13:57:02 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Some EVE subscribers still play on calculators, no 3D for you.

(I believe that was the real reason of 5% subscriptions loss after Incarna which made captain quarters loading mandatory)


No it wasn't. It was CCPs unbelievable ego that did that.

And CQ was not mandatory either. Instead of the alternate station hanger, one only got a static .jpg of The Door. But no, CQ was not required.

I don't know where some people get their information.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#23 - 2013-10-15 14:01:10 UTC
As soon as anyone mentions the phrase : " I think it would be cool " my initial reaction is no, sometimes I read more, sometimes I not read at all yet always my reaction is no.

No.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-10-15 14:02:43 UTC
I want to see an animated login screen like in the old days
and when we click, the characters show up.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-10-15 14:12:39 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:
No, thank you OP.

I rather want something that loads fast.

Maximillan Lancaster
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-10-15 14:35:17 UTC
Now that you mention it, they should just raise the bar altogether. 8GB ram, 64bit OS, Quadcore minimum, anyone?

On a side note, the game would really look better. And only the rich with flashy playthings could run the game.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#27 - 2013-10-15 14:51:42 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Yeah, it was indeed time for a change, but, changing one crappy screen with the avatar for another one?

When you could just place de entire toon in animated 3D?

Say like the 3 of them sitting on captain quarters, race chosen from the last chosen toon on the previous session, when you hover or clic the mouse on one of them he/she might stand up, come closer to the cam, fancy pimp pose, and the relevant data show up on one side, letters slading in a cool way or something, then you clic/hover another one, the previous goes to sit down again, the one you selected gets up, approaches the camera, their data show up, etc.




But no, you exchanged one crappy avatar static image for another one...


I will only accept this if they are doing shots and playing DUST in Garamonde's CQ, one day, then at a strip club, waiving 20 ISK bills at Minmatar girls, the next.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#28 - 2013-10-15 14:52:17 UTC
I'm really not sure why they would even bother expending cycles on a new login screen with zero new functionality. It' displays the same data as the old screen, it just looks like the Dust514 load screen

zero value

People have been crying for fast character switching forever. Could have expended the dev cycles on that instead.
Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#29 - 2013-10-15 15:18:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Petra Hakaari
Tippia wrote:
... and just make it annoying in exactly the same way as release-day WIS was annoying.


Velicitia wrote:
... and Incarna (which was a terrible expansion, and a real let down as far as WiS was concerned)..


Real wis will be awesome when the time comes in a year or two from now, gamble some isk at a Slay game, get a lap dance from a hot ebony erotic dance godess and slide a couple million to her thong, or go drink a synthetic coffe after a mission given by a contractor who hired you to hunt some douchebag in an underground station at lowsec...


You ppl that say "JUST NO" remind me so much of that quote from wayne dye...


Seriously fellas, this is still an mmo role playing game, and the role component is castrated if i can't type /cigarette... and as an mmorpg the immersion is important.

Because tities .

Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#30 - 2013-10-15 15:29:37 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
You ppl that say "JUST NO" remind me so much of that quote from wayne dye...

>brainyquote

Really?


Also this new screen looks p.good, no need to make it overly complex.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#31 - 2013-10-15 15:33:43 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:

and as an mmorpg the immersion is important.


Apparently not as EVE has had zero immersion for 10 1/2 years now.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-10-15 15:37:42 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Real wis will be awesome when the time comes in a year or two from now, gamble some isk at a Slay game, get a lap dance from a hot ebony erotic dance godess and slide a couple million to her thong, or go drink a synthetic coffe after a mission given by a contractor who hired you to hunt some douchebag in an underground station at lowsec...

i can get porno from a lot of places already, thanks
Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#33 - 2013-10-15 15:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Petra Hakaari
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Apparently not as EVE has had zero immersion for 10 1/2 years now.


I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to insult you but, immersion is a concept, like health, one doesn't has healt or not, one has good health, or bad.


Benny Ohu wrote:
i can get porno from a lot of places already, thanks


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FV8sXCevKnE/TiQ0_5NwUoI/AAAAAAAAABw/TH2oG1VDUsw/s1600/minmatar_station.jpg

I'm sad :C i see "girls" there, but one gets in and there aren't nipples anywhere :C and that disrupts the immersion/game experience.

Because tities .

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#34 - 2013-10-15 16:05:37 UTC
I see no reason to add anything that would delay selection and login of character what so ever.

Just show me my characters and let me select which one to use.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Petra Hakaari
Stalking Wolfpack
#35 - 2013-10-15 16:08:09 UTC
Lors Dornick wrote:
I see no reason to add anything that would delay selection and login of character what so ever.

Just show me my characters and let me select which one to use.



Cool so you play with the starmap opened, more fps, overview its enough for you.

Because tities .

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#36 - 2013-10-15 16:09:05 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
I see no reason to add anything that would delay selection and login of character what so ever.

Just show me my characters and let me select which one to use.



Cool so you play with the starmap opened, more fps, overview its enough for you.

No, since the starmap is useless and I get the FPS I need anyway.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#37 - 2013-10-15 16:15:05 UTC
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
I see no reason to add anything that would delay selection and login of character what so ever.

Just show me my characters and let me select which one to use.



Cool so you play with the starmap opened, more fps, overview its enough for you.

You made this thread to get a discussion going on your idea, right?

Most people gave you a good reason why they don't want a 3d char selection and you insult them with your ridiculous responses. That's no way to behave.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#38 - 2013-10-15 16:16:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
Petra Hakaari wrote:
Tippia wrote:
... and just make it annoying in exactly the same way as release-day WIS was annoying.


Velicitia wrote:
... and Incarna (which was a terrible expansion, and a real let down as far as WiS was concerned)..


Real wis will be awesome when the time comes in a year or two from now, gamble some isk at a Slay game, get a lap dance from a hot ebony erotic dance godess and slide a couple million to her thong, or go drink a synthetic coffe after a mission given by a contractor who hired you to hunt some douchebag in an underground station at lowsec...


You ppl that say "JUST NO" remind me so much of that quote from wayne dye...


Seriously fellas, this is still an mmo role playing game, and the role component is castrated if i can't type /cigarette... and as an mmorpg the immersion is important.


eh what? all I said was that Incarna (and the Minmatar CQ that got released with it) was a real hard blow to take when previous demos of the character ambulation made WiS look spectacular. It's kind of like getting a box on your birthday (as a kid) and you think it's gonna be awesome, and it turns out to be something crappy that breaks in 10 minutes.

edit -- but as a September '11 character, you wouldn't have been party to any of that hype and soul crushing disappointment.

we were tempted with stuff like this ... this is what we got (and the door). Yeah, we might have gotten "more" in the winter expansion ... but the players were (rightfully) outraged at what CCP delivered compared to what they said we'd be getting (also, "Greed is Good", and everything else that went sideways).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#39 - 2013-10-15 18:07:43 UTC
I can only "meh" at new screen...
None ofthe Above
#40 - 2013-10-15 18:24:32 UTC  |  Edited by: None ofthe Above
Actually I think it's a nice quick hit that improves the first impression.

To those of you faulting them for wasting time doing this:

They basically didn't. This was a very quick pass at improving the first screen in the game after the splash screen was removed by moving authentication into the launcher. I think the effort spent will have good return on investment.

To those of you saying this is not enough:

See the points of those complaining above. It wasn't so broken as to require a ton of work. Switching characters without a restart is likely to require a fair amount of work to get right and that time is probably better spent in game at the moment. Yes it would be great, but how high of a priority should be?

I miss the newsfeed, but it's redundant with the launcher anyway. Still not really sold on the launcher, but hopefully it'll get better.

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