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Dev Blog: New Player Training Sessions

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#81 - 2013-10-10 14:13:53 UTC
You should definitely do one about being podded. Yes, I am aware that many people would volunteer to 'assist' as teachers but I am being serious.

Your first podding can be traumatic and it would be good to explain about medical clone updates, jump clone services, lowsec gate camps etc.

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MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#82 - 2013-10-10 14:50:16 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Menaiya Zamayid wrote:
As much as I love these kinds of things. 17:00 UTC is horribly early for the US folks. I am still at work at that time .Ugh
While I don't expect CCP To be up that late.

A good US TZ Session would be great. Could someone set something like this up too?


We definitely want to do this. Right now we don't have the resources to do so, but if they prove to be popular we'll find a way to do things at a time that's better for our very large US following. This is part of the reason we are recording all the sessions and will be holding all our organized activities on weekends.


CCP Eterne wrote:
Certainly! Our PVP Fleet on the 16th will be a live fire exercise with roaming.


The 16th is a Wednesday. Perhaps in Iceland that qualifies as "weekend", but in the USA it isn't.

MDD Evil
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#83 - 2013-10-10 14:53:14 UTC
MainTrain wrote:
My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)

1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc
2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool)
3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out!
4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?

If these have

1: They have already said no disruption of that nature will be tolerated. Warning first, followed by appropriate GM intervention as the situation warrants. One assumes that goes from banning people from the chat channel up to "possibly" including bans and/or penalties if they refuse to back off.

2: No idea, but it sounds like this will be held on tranquility for ease of access.

3: I think anyone is invited to attend.

4: Good question. They could do it either way, although it would only be necessary for those sections where actual combat is going to happen. Most likely these first classes will only require a frigate (even a noob frigate) to go over the mechanics. More advanced classes involving combat might find a need, although they'll have to be careful that people aren't simply there to milk a free ship.

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Menaiya Zamayid
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#84 - 2013-10-10 15:49:54 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
MainTrain wrote:
My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)

1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc
2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool)
3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out!
4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?

If these have

1: They have already said no disruption of that nature will be tolerated. Warning first, followed by appropriate GM intervention as the situation warrants. One assumes that goes from banning people from the chat channel up to "possibly" including bans and/or penalties if they refuse to back off.

2: No idea, but it sounds like this will be held on tranquility for ease of access.

3: I think anyone is invited to attend.

4: Good question. They could do it either way, although it would only be necessary for those sections where actual combat is going to happen. Most likely these first classes will only require a frigate (even a noob frigate) to go over the mechanics. More advanced classes involving combat might find a need, although they'll have to be careful that people aren't simply there to milk a free ship.


It is an unwise player who deliberately defies CCP on the field. They have more ways of capture than you have escape.
Maul555
Xen Investments
#85 - 2013-10-10 15:50:09 UTC
Bubanni wrote:
im sure most people would be okay with a pop up window an hour before you guys do your training session :) just to make sure your audiance is as big as it can get btw


This!
Mangala Solaris
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
#86 - 2013-10-10 15:58:16 UTC
MailDeadDrop wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
Menaiya Zamayid wrote:
As much as I love these kinds of things. 17:00 UTC is horribly early for the US folks. I am still at work at that time .Ugh
While I don't expect CCP To be up that late.

A good US TZ Session would be great. Could someone set something like this up too?


We definitely want to do this. Right now we don't have the resources to do so, but if they prove to be popular we'll find a way to do things at a time that's better for our very large US following. This is part of the reason we are recording all the sessions and will be holding all our organized activities on weekends.


CCP Eterne wrote:
Certainly! Our PVP Fleet on the 16th will be a live fire exercise with roaming.


The 16th is a Wednesday. Perhaps in Iceland that qualifies as "weekend", but in the USA it isn't.

MDD Evil


16th November.
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#87 - 2013-10-10 19:33:16 UTC
Will in-channel voice comms be used?

It's not clear from the devblog, there is mention of the sessions being "recorded", so I'm guessing at least the ability to listen in will be required. Will new players require a mic?

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#88 - 2013-10-10 20:21:36 UTC
MainTrain wrote:
My big questions, and likely already asked (at work so ability to scroll through pages of forums is limited)

1. What is to stop people from coming in and interrupting, suiciding folk etc etc
2. Is there potential for this to be held in polaris to prevent/reduce such issues (would be cool)
3. Are non trial/first month players invited? I for one would enjoy covering things officially to make sure ive not missed anything out!
4. Will fitted ships/modules/etc be provided for players? I would imagine some new players will struggle to purchase things?

If these have


1.) If someone disrupts the fleet... kick them from TS, Kick from Fleet, and primary the fool. Then tackle his POD and hold it there until you are done lecturing, at which point you sacrifice his pod while giving thanks for the target of opportunity!

2.) Such issues are part of the game, and learning how to deal with it is too.

3.) Probably... but that's up to CCP.

4.) I hope not! A big part of learning to PvP is learning to accept the inevitable loss of your ship. A frigate is very cheap, and you can fit a very combat capable frigate for less than 1.5m isk. I see no reason for CCP to supply you with frigs.

True story, we once had a 50-man Frigate gang smartbombed to death in highsec while running one of our classes.. These make good stories, and provide excellent discussion points.
LoftyLazerus Thesiant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2013-10-11 22:39:57 UTC
Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
I'm almost a year old,
but you can guarantee I'll be watching the Videos.
THNX
deAdder en Thielles
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-10-14 17:19:39 UTC
Is this session happening? I could not find a way to 'accept' the session...
scatter gun
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-10-14 17:43:56 UTC
so ive got a question that i havent seen be fielded before

why is this channel not listed under 'Help' section of the channel list? if its a hit it can stay if it flops, cant it be removed?

i have friends who made accounts months ago, and due to operational commitments in Afghanistan, has an extremely limited knowledge of the game, is no longer in any of the starter channels(NPC Corp or Rookie Help) and short of reading concord billboards or his news feed on login page, it seems extremely unlikely he would have found this if he hadnt gotten a hold of me on the FaceBook... and if he was looking for help channels, he would not have found any information about these training sessions. unless its broadcast through all CCP owned channels.

on the subject of billboards... why is there no news feed in the station services window... another point that information could be relayed without requiring one to be in space(specially if under war dec)... and dont tell me that CQ is the only place you want players to find the news feed inside a station.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#92 - 2013-10-14 20:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
^^ I would love to see billboards revamped entirely. The one near gates could be very useful both for official news and player-sponsored adverts. Of course they would have to be much larger and higher res. Cost would depend on how busy the system is.

Or make them player-built and destructible with only a suspect flag! Great for recruitment. And put one behind the spinning ship (should probably make this optional or the vets would have an absolute conniption).

Um, I got a bit carried away there. Smile You can probably tell I would like to see them changed. So much wasted immersion possibility...

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Sahriah BloodStone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-10-15 00:29:18 UTC
This is a fantastic idea!

I have been playing since 2007 and have recently been thinking about creating videos for new players including indepth looks at weapons, tanking, careers and other various thinks.

Lo and behold 2 days after writing up some documentation for this you guys announced new player training sessions.

I would love to get involved in any way i can and help CCP help new players out. I am not a well known community figure. Im not part of any awesome alliance like EvE-uni, but i would still love to get involved.

How does one go about this and are there any requirements?

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-10-15 08:45:24 UTC
Just invited a new player to the game...

My first piece of advice "Rule #1 , Dont trust anyone"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSDNPFCPfY
arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2013-10-15 11:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: arria Auscent
Did you guys at CCP steal this idea off us?
we do noobie training at least once a month, taking them to null to hunt people down and teach them how to fight/fly.

maybe we could offer our training to players outside of CAS if our big guys like it.

oh yes we do missions and mining ops to train them too
Cali Cesaille
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-10-16 02:54:15 UTC
I think new player training is a great idea, but having it at 1700 UTC on a Friday is an odd choice. Why not make it a weekend day so that folks who work can join? That's 10AM Friday where I live (US Pacific time). I know these things take time to plan, so all the more puzzling why a more appropriate time wasn't chosen.
Meddler Loutte
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#97 - 2013-10-16 17:42:35 UTC
I live in Hawaii and this puts the training at 7a.m. I am getting ready to work then.

Is there a link to where these sessions will be available to those who cannot attend the seminars?
David Kir
Hotbirds
#98 - 2013-10-17 01:37:53 UTC
Will older players be able to join the PVP fleet?

I am completely serious, no durka typhoon b*****it.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Disco Soliloquy
Major Kong Freight
#99 - 2013-10-17 02:36:59 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
Hey everyone! The EVE Community Team is launching a new initiative designed to help new players get into EVE and learn how the world works faster and more efficiently. We're calling this initiative the Avengers Initiative. Wait, no. I mean it's the New Player Training Sessions!

Read all about it in this dev blog.


Where are these pages on EVElopedia? It is the 16th, so I assume the first session is in the bag.
Leta Lilitu
#100 - 2013-10-18 14:03:39 UTC
Oh my Jesus you guys should contact VICE magazine right away.

They could do an article like this:

There are some games, way back when, that you needed a manual for. a whole book.
Nowadays, games are so stupidly simple, that you can learn the basics in the furst tutorial mission, or just on the fly.

In EVE, we are so hardcore.. We are the grittiest of gamers, powering through the hardcoreiest of games that ever there was, EVE ONLINE! WE.... aree....... EVE!!!! DOOFDOOFDOOFDOOFDOOF

em.
wat i meant was, this is the first game where the game designers need to take potential recruits and train them in a boot camp, in order to be able to play the game.

I love it.

Come pLayY.
srs,
VICE Magazin

Hey!  I done a story   :)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3851158#post3851158